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A Dutch feast with Turkish roots: St. Nicholas
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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 08 Nov 2006 Wed 07:53 pm

Sinterklaas
The Feast of Sinterklaas, or St. Nicholas, is an annual event which has been uniquely Dutch and Flemish for centuries. St. Nicholas' Feast Day, December 6th, is observed in most Roman Catholic countries primarily as a feast for small children. But it is only in the Low Countries - especially in the Netherlands - that the eve of his feast day (December 5th) is celebrated nationwide by young and old, christian and non-christian, and without any religious overtones. Although Sinterklaas is always portrayed in the vestments of the bishop he once was, his status as a canonized saint has had little to do with the way the Dutch think of him. Rather, he is a kind of benevolent old man, whose feast day is observed by exchanging gifts and making good-natured fun of each other. It so happens that the legend of St. Nicholas is based on historical fact. He did actually exist. He lived from 271 A.D. to December 6th, 342 or 343. His 4th century tomb in the town of Myra, now called Demre in western Anatolia in present-day Turkey, has even been dug up by archaeologists.

This is his story: Born of a wealthy family, Nicholas was brought up as a devout Christian. When his parents died of an epidemic, he distributed his wealth among the poor and became a priest. Later he became Archbishop of Myra, and it is from here that the fame of his good deeds began to spread across the Mediterranean. Desperate sailors who called upon the Good Bishop to calm stormy seas were heard; prison walls crumbled when victims of persecution prayed to him. He saved young children from the butcher's knife and dropped dowries into the shoes of penniless maidens. Over time, St. Nicholas became the patron saint of sailors and merchants, and especially of children. After his death, the cult of St. Nicholas spread rapidly via southern Italy throughout the rest of the Mediterranean and eventually to coastal towns along the Atlantic and the North Sea. In the 12th and 13th centuries, Holland built no fewer than 23 churches dedicated to St. Nicholas, many of which are still standing. Amsterdam adopted St. Nicholas as its patron saint, and Rome decreed that December 6th, the anniversary of his death, should be his official Feast Day. St. Nicholas' strong influence in the Low Countries - an area heavily engaged in trade and navigation - was primarily due to his role as patron of sailors and merchants.

However, his fame as protector of children soon took precedence. In the 14th century, choir boys of St. Nicholas churches were given some money and the day off on December 6th. Somewhat later, the pupils of convent schools would be rewarded or punished by a monk dressed up as the Good Bishop, with his long white beard, his red mantle and mitre (bishop's hat) and his golden crosier (bishop's staff) - just as he is still presented today.

All Dutch children know that Sinterklaas (the name is a corruption of Sint Nikolaas) lives in Spain. Exactly why he does remains a mystery, but that is what all the old songs and nursery rhymes say. Whatever the case may be, in Spain he spends most of the year recording the behaviour of all children in a big red book, while his helper Black Peter stocks up on presents for next December 5th. In the first weeks of November, Sinterklaas gets on his white horse, Peter ('Piet') swings a huge sack full of gifts over his shoulder, and the three of them board a steamship headed for the Netherlands. Around mid-November they arrive in a harbour town - a different one every year - where they are formally greeted by the Mayor and a delegation of citizens. Their parade through town is watched live on television by the whole country and marks the beginning of the 'Sinterklaas season'.

The old bishop and his helpmate are suddenly everywhere at once. At night they ride across Holland's' rooftops and Sinterklaas listens through the chimneys to check on the children's behaviour. Piet jumps down the chimney flues and makes sure that the carrot or hay the children have left for the horse in their shoes by the fireplace is exchanged for a small gift or some candy. During the day, Sinterklaas and Piet are even busier, visiting schools, hospitals, department stores, restaurants, offices and many private homes. Piet rings doorbells, scatters sweets through the slightly opened doors and leaves basketfuls of presents by the front door. How do they manage to be all over the Netherlands at once?

This is thanks to the so-called 'hulp-Sinterklazen', or Sinterklaas helpers, who dress up like the bishop and Black Peter and help them perform their duties. Children who become wise to these simultaneous 'Sint-sightings' are told that since Sinterklaas cannot indeed be in two places at once, he gets a little help from his uncanonized friends.

The Dutch are busy too - shopping for, and more importantly, making presents. Tradition demands that all packages be camouflaged in some imaginative way, and that every gift be accompanied by a fitting poem. This is the essence of Sinterklaas: lots of fun on a day when people are not only allowed, but expected, to make fun of each other in a friendly way. Children, parents, teachers, employers and employees, friends and co-workers tease each other and make fun of each others' habits and mannerisms.
Another part of the fun is how presents are hidden or disguised. Recipients often have to go on a treasure hunt all over the house, aided by hints, to look for them. They must be prepared to dig their gifts out of the potato bin, to find them in a jello pudding, in a glove filled with wet sand, in some crazy dummy or doll. Working hard for your presents and working even harder to think up other peoples' presents and get them ready is what the fun is all about.

The original poem accompanying each present is another old custom and a particularly challenging one. Here the author has a field day with his subject (the recipient of the gift). Foibles, love interests, embarrassing incidents, funny habits and well-kept secrets are all fair game. The recipient, who is the butt of the joke, has to open his/her package in public and read the poem aloud amid general hilarity. The real giver is supposed to remain anonymous because all presents technically come from Sinterklaas, and recipients say out loud 'Thank you, Sinterklaas!', even if they no longer believe in him.

Towards December 5th, St. Nicholas poems pop up everywhere in the Netherlands: in the press, in school, at work and in both Houses of Parliament.

On the day of the 5th, most places of business close a bit earlier than normal. The Dutch head home to a table laden with the same traditional sweets and baked goods eaten for St. Nicholas as shown in the 17th-century paintings of the Old Masters. Large chocolate letters - the first initial of each person present - serve as place settings. They share the table along with large gingerbread men and women known as 'lovers'. A basket filled with mysterious packages stands close by and scissors are at hand. Early in the evening sweets are eaten while those gathered take turns unwrapping their gifts and reading their poems out loud so that everyone can enjoy the impact of the surprise. The emphasis is on originality and personal effort rather than the commercial value of the gift, which is one reason why Sinterklaas is such a delightful event for young and old alike.

Source: minbuza.nl

2.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 01:25 am

Thanks Trudy for this. I will pass it along to my brother who's son is named Nicholas, after Saint Nicholas. Very educational piece you posted.

3.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:04 pm

It´s December 5th again! Happy Sinterklaas to all Dutch / Flemish members!

 

4.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 10:14 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

It´s December 5th again! Happy Sinterklaas to all Dutch / Flemish members!

 

 Thanks Trudy....This brings back a lot of childhood memories for me.  THIS is how I remember Santa Claus....and not the American version. 

 

5.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 12:07 am

 

Quoting Trudy

It´s December 5th again! Happy Sinterklaas to all Dutch / Flemish members!

 

wooow! hes got lots of hair for an old guy! lol! His hair is thicker than mine!(Cause its falling out!!!! The doctor says i need to take vitamins but im gonna cut it real short soon maybe day after tommorow ) U can make a pretty nice wig from all that!

 

6.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 12:16 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Sinterklaas The Feast of Sinterklaas, or St. Nicholas, is an annual event which has been uniquely Dutch and Flemish for centuries. St. Nicholas´ Feast Day, December 6th, is observed in most Roman Catholic countries primarily as a feast for small children. But it is only in the Low Countries - especially in the Netherlands - that the eve of his feast day (December 5th) is celebrated nationwide by young and old, christian and non-christian, and without any religious overtones. Although Sinterklaas is always portrayed in the vestments of the bishop he once was, his status as a canonized saint has had little to do with the way the Dutch think of him. Rather, he is a kind of benevolent old man, whose feast day is observed by exchanging gifts and making good-natured fun of each other. It so happens that the legend of St. Nicholas is based on historical fact. He did actually exist. He lived from 271 A.D. to December 6th, 342 or 343. His 4th century tomb in the town of Myra, now called Demre in western Anatolia in present-day Turkey, has even been dug up by archaeologists. This is his story: Born of a wealthy family, Nicholas was brought up as a devout Christian. When his parents died of an epidemic, he distributed his wealth among the poor and became a priest. Later he became Archbishop of Myra, and it is from here that the fame of his good deeds began to spread across the Mediterranean. Desperate sailors who called upon the Good Bishop to calm stormy seas were heard; prison walls crumbled when victims of persecution prayed to him. He saved young children from the butcher´s knife and dropped dowries into the shoes of penniless maidens. Over time, St. Nicholas became the patron saint of sailors and merchants, and especially of children. After his death, the cult of St. Nicholas spread rapidly via southern Italy throughout the rest of the Mediterranean and eventually to coastal towns along the Atlantic and the North Sea. In the 12th and 13th centuries, Holland built no fewer than 23 churches dedicated to St. Nicholas, many of which are still standing. Amsterdam adopted St. Nicholas as its patron saint, and Rome decreed that December 6th, the anniversary of his death, should be his official Feast Day. St. Nicholas´ strong influence in the Low Countries - an area heavily engaged in trade and navigation - was primarily due to his role as patron of sailors and merchants. However, his fame as protector of children soon took precedence. In the 14th century, choir boys of St. Nicholas churches were given some money and the day off on December 6th. Somewhat later, the pupils of convent schools would be rewarded or punished by a monk dressed up as the Good Bishop, with his long white beard, his red mantle and mitre (bishop´s hat) and his golden crosier (bishop´s staff) - just as he is still presented today. All Dutch children know that Sinterklaas (the name is a corruption of Sint Nikolaas) lives in Spain. Exactly why he does remains a mystery, but that is what all the old songs and nursery rhymes say. Whatever the case may be, in Spain he spends most of the year recording the behaviour of all children in a big red book, while his helper Black Peter stocks up on presents for next December 5th. In the first weeks of November, Sinterklaas gets on his white horse, Peter (´Piet´ swings a huge sack full of gifts over his shoulder, and the three of them board a steamship headed for the Netherlands. Around mid-November they arrive in a harbour town - a different one every year - where they are formally greeted by the Mayor and a delegation of citizens. Their parade through town is watched live on television by the whole country and marks the beginning of the ´Sinterklaas season´. The old bishop and his helpmate are suddenly everywhere at once. At night they ride across Holland´s´ rooftops and Sinterklaas listens through the chimneys to check on the children´s behaviour. Piet jumps down the chimney flues and makes sure that the carrot or hay the children have left for the horse in their shoes by the fireplace is exchanged for a small gift or some candy. During the day, Sinterklaas and Piet are even busier, visiting schools, hospitals, department stores, restaurants, offices and many private homes. Piet rings doorbells, scatters sweets through the slightly opened doors and leaves basketfuls of presents by the front door. How do they manage to be all over the Netherlands at once? This is thanks to the so-called ´hulp-Sinterklazen´, or Sinterklaas helpers, who dress up like the bishop and Black Peter and help them perform their duties. Children who become wise to these simultaneous ´Sint-sightings´ are told that since Sinterklaas cannot indeed be in two places at once, he gets a little help from his uncanonized friends. The Dutch are busy too - shopping for, and more importantly, making presents. Tradition demands that all packages be camouflaged in some imaginative way, and that every gift be accompanied by a fitting poem. This is the essence of Sinterklaas: lots of fun on a day when people are not only allowed, but expected, to make fun of each other in a friendly way. Children, parents, teachers, employers and employees, friends and co-workers tease each other and make fun of each others´ habits and mannerisms. Another part of the fun is how presents are hidden or disguised. Recipients often have to go on a treasure hunt all over the house, aided by hints, to look for them. They must be prepared to dig their gifts out of the potato bin, to find them in a jello pudding, in a glove filled with wet sand, in some crazy dummy or doll. Working hard for your presents and working even harder to think up other peoples´ presents and get them ready is what the fun is all about. The original poem accompanying each present is another old custom and a particularly challenging one. Here the author has a field day with his subject (the recipient of the gift). Foibles, love interests, embarrassing incidents, funny habits and well-kept secrets are all fair game. The recipient, who is the butt of the joke, has to open his/her package in public and read the poem aloud amid general hilarity. The real giver is supposed to remain anonymous because all presents technically come from Sinterklaas, and recipients say out loud ´Thank you, Sinterklaas!´, even if they no longer believe in him. Towards December 5th, St. Nicholas poems pop up everywhere in the Netherlands: in the press, in school, at work and in both Houses of Parliament. On the day of the 5th, most places of business close a bit earlier than normal. The Dutch head home to a table laden with the same traditional sweets and baked goods eaten for St. Nicholas as shown in the 17th-century paintings of the Old Masters. Large chocolate letters - the first initial of each person present - serve as place settings. They share the table along with large gingerbread men and women known as ´lovers´. A basket filled with mysterious packages stands close by and scissors are at hand. Early in the evening sweets are eaten while those gathered take turns unwrapping their gifts and reading their poems out loud so that everyone can enjoy the impact of the surprise. The emphasis is on originality and personal effort rather than the commercial value of the gift, which is one reason why Sinterklaas is such a delightful event for young and old alike. Source: minbuza.nl

 

So do you celebrate christmas too? cause this sounds pretty much like it but a little different but the main thing is okay i mean, is this the alternative christmas???? or do u also celebrate christmas? I man christams is the death of jesus but, i mean do you use the same santa clause?

Its soo confusing to make u understand!I mean what do you tell children on christams if thats what u tell them on that day, since santa is actually St Nicholas?

BTW did u know that orthodox christians (the ones in egypt) celebrate christams Januray 7th?

Here they call Santa Clause baba noeil (the pronunciation would be No whale but of course without a space in between )

But in malls and stuff they celebrate the normal christmas, and we put up trees and stuff normal christams too and we tell our friends that our christamas you know greetings but the greetign that they say in arabic, the same one they tell us on bayram, on both days

The normal christams all of egypt celebrates it (muslims and christians) but the other one, mainly only them

okay i went waay off topic

7.       bydand
755 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 12:22 am

 

Quoting Trudy

It´s December 5th again! Happy Sinterklaas to all Dutch / Flemish members!

 

Blimey my birthday as well.... 2 reasons to celibrate!  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics} 

 

8.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:07 am

Happy St. Nicholas Day...brings back memories as a kid.  Our stockings were filled with candy and my mom would put an orange in it.  I always thought St. Nick was trying to give us a healthy balance diet..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Happy Birthday Bydand....a very special day..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

9.       bydand
755 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:09 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Happy St. Nicholas Day...brings back memories as a kid.  Our stockings were filled with candy and my mom would put an orange in it.  I always thought St. Nick was trying to give us a healthy balance diet..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Happy Birthday Bydand....a very special day..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 Thank you teaschip very much appreciated. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

10.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:19 am

Happy Birthday Bydand

 

11.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:35 am

 

Quoting doudi94

 I man christams is the death of jesus 

 

 

Doudi pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!  It was the birth of Jesus (allegedly)!

 

 

12.       bydand
755 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:37 am

{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} 

Quoting TheAenigma

Happy Birthday Bydand

 

 Thank you TheAenigma.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

13.       Trudy
7887 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 09:57 am

 

Quoting doudi94

So do you celebrate christmas too? cause this sounds pretty much like it but a little different but the main thing is okay i mean, is this the alternative christmas???? or do u also celebrate christmas? I man christams is the death of jesus but, i mean do you use the same santa clause?

Its soo confusing to make u understand!I mean what do you tell children on christams if thats what u tell them on that day, since santa is actually St Nicholas?

BTW did u know that orthodox christians (the ones in egypt) celebrate christams Januray 7th?

Here they call Santa Clause baba noeil (the pronunciation would be No whale but of course without a space in between )

But in malls and stuff they celebrate the normal christmas, and we put up trees and stuff normal christams too and we tell our friends that our christamas you know greetings but the greetign that they say in arabic, the same one they tell us on bayram, on both days

The normal christams all of egypt celebrates it (muslims and christians) but the other one, mainly only them

okay i went waay off topic

 

Of course we celebrate Christmas as well. Sinterklaas is NOT Santa Claus (who lives on the North Pole and rides a sledge with reindeers!) and Sinterklaas - though a saint - has nothing to do with the birth (!!!) of Jezus.

14.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 10:02 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Of course we celebrate Christmas as well. Sinterklaas is NOT Santa Claus (who lives on the North Pole and rides a sledge with reindeers!) and Sinterklaas - though a saint - has nothing to do with the birth (!!!) of Jezus.

 

May I just add....Santa Claus (US, Germany), St. Nicholas (many EU countries) AND Father Christmas (UK) have nothing to do with Jesus either!

 

December the 25th was a pagan festival until the Christians highjacked it.  Trees and Santa Claus have nothing to do with religion.

 

Here is a wiki link for you Doudi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

 

Frankly, Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus lately either

(Which is why, as a Pastafarian, I feel able to celebrate!) lol

15.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:35 am

 

Quoting bydand

Blimey my birthday as well.... 2 reasons to celibrate!  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics} 

 

 Ahhhh happy birthday sna bydand!!!  {#lang_emotions_wink}  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

16.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:36 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Here is a wiki link for you Doudi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

 

 Alameda???  Is that you???  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

17.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:54 am

Belated Happy Birthday Bydand!

 

 

http://www.oklahomasugarartists.com/images/2006/Martha%20Agnew%20Silver.jpg

 

In Poland we have Mikołajki (St Nicola´s Day) on the 6th, people buy presents, usually at schools kids would write their names on pieces of paper, then everybody draws one name and you make a present for this person. Earlier you set the amount of money you may spend on the gift (usually it´s not much) so you must be creative. On 6th you get those presents.

 

On Christmas Baby Jesus brings gifts I guess this is something that is not very convincing, after all it was Baby Jesus who got gifts from the Three Wise Men from th East {#lang_emotions_unsure}

18.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 05:45 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Quoting doudi94

 I man christams is the death of jesus 

 

 

Doudi pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!  It was the birth of Jesus (allegedly)!

 

OMG loooooooooooool! I knew that! But i was reading the word death at the same time looooooooooooooooool! And i dont double chech my posts!

Oh how awkward!

:$

19.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 05:46 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Of course we celebrate Christmas as well. Sinterklaas is NOT Santa Claus (who lives on the North Pole and rides a sledge with reindeers!) and Sinterklaas - though a saint - has nothing to do with the birth (!!!) of Jezus.

Then who symbolizes christams?

The 2 guyz atre so close to each other do kids really fall for it?

 

 

20.       Trudy
7887 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 06:04 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Then who symbolizes christams?

The 2 guyz atre so close to each other do kids really fall for it?

 

 Have you read the link Aenigma gave you?

21.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 06:10 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Have you read the link Aenigma gave you?

 

Oops,sorry i ahdnt read page 2 :S

just read it now,all of it! everything´s clear now! Its all the americans´ faults!

=D

22.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 06:18 pm

Something i wanna know now is why do they call santa in egypt baba noel?

why not st. nicholas?

or something like that?

I just sked my mom, she doesnt know :S

23.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 06:44 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Something i wanna know now is why do they call santa in egypt baba noel?

why not st. nicholas?

or something like that?

I just sked my mom, she doesnt know :S

 

 It´s the same thing Doudi   "baba" = Father, Noel = Christmas

(Noel is another name for Christmas here too)

24.       Trudy
7887 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 07:16 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Something i wanna know now is why do they call santa in egypt baba noel?

why not st. nicholas?

or something like that?

I just sked my mom, she doesnt know :S

 

 Simple. Saint Nicolas is NOT the same as Santa Claus.

25.       bydand
755 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:03 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Ahhhh happy birthday sna bydand!!!  {#lang_emotions_wink}  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

 

 Gee thanks GG! I´m taking AE´s advice about anger management so no more snarkyness from now on. {#lang_emotions_unsure}

26.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:05 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 Gee thanks GG! I´m taking AE´s advice about anger management so no more snarkyness from now on. {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Oh come on!! We are all snarky now and then!!!  It´s not always a bad thing {#lang_emotions_razz}

27.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:13 pm

 

Quoting bydand

I´m taking AE´s advice

 

 NEVER take my advice {#lang_emotions_noway}

 

(Is that, in itself, advice? )

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