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LESS EUROPE, MORE ISLAM "DER SPIEGEL"
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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Nov 2006 Wed 11:30 pm

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,446163,00.html

2.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 12:02 am

Quoting Roswitha:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,446163,00.html



www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,446163,00.html

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 02:42 am

Very interesting article. It's really sad what's happening in Turkey... .

4.       cyrano
0 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 03:07 am

Yeah, very sad! I assert I would be able to save Turkey if I had had a good computer!

5.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 03:12 am

İ don't think its sad to be Muslim and enjoy your life too!

They have every right to enjoy life,to enjoy swimming for example,and respect their own believes at same time too.

A Muslim woman,wearing a scarf,and want to enjoy swimming what should she do ?

Take off her scarf because she doesn't have enough freedom to wear what ever she likes ?and disobey her God ?
Or to respect her choice and allow her to wear her custom as respecting other women choice in not wearing scarfes,and wearing bikinis ?!

What is more sad,to be the citizen of the country and cann't enjoy your country's beauty ,and foreigners come and enjoy it,or to have the right to enjoy your country's beauty,and for foreigners to respect that too?

What is more right , to have topless beaches for foreigners to enjoy their freedom in choosing what to wear,or not wear there,and not to have beaches for citizen to enjoy same freedom ?

6.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 10:20 am

Quoting CANLI:

İ don't think its sad to be Muslim and enjoy your life too!

They have every right to enjoy life,to enjoy swimming for example,and respect their own believes at same time too.

A Muslim woman,wearing a scarf,and want to enjoy swimming what should she do ?

Take off her scarf because she doesn't have enough freedom to wear what ever she likes ?and disobey her God ?
Or to respect her choice and allow her to wear her custom as respecting other women choice in not wearing scarfes,and wearing bikinis ?!

What is more sad,to be the citizen of the country and cann't enjoy your country's beauty ,and foreigners come and enjoy it,or to have the right to enjoy your country's beauty,and for foreigners to respect that too?

What is more right , to have topless beaches for foreigners to enjoy their freedom in choosing what to wear,or not wear there,and not to have beaches for citizen to enjoy same freedom ?



i think its sad that people don't have the right to express themselves in whichever way they see fit..although i don't see why everyone should have to wade through a beach of half naked people all the time..especially with children around..but hey i guess people don't care about children seeing breasts and stuff anymore seeing as children are becoming more sexually aware
kind of upsetting in my opinion, why can't they keep their innocence a little longer
but hey c'est la vie

and i think they should explain what the problem with this is..
"Is Turkey really becoming more Islamic? And particularly now, after coming so far on the way towards Europe? "
does it really matter if they are muslim or not..is the news trying to suggests that muslims shouldn't be allowed in europe!!!

7.       kai
0 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 12:23 pm

Quoting robyn :

is the news trying to suggests that muslims shouldn't be allowed in europe!!!



Well if they are canım, it might be a little difficult to place the 15 million+ people that are muslims thats in Eurpoe already! lol...how dumb can you get?

8.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 12:28 pm

yes but judging by their comment on that site i'd say muslims were pretty alienated

9.       Snow Drop
127 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 09:26 pm

girls cannot wear their scarves at universities
i heard of such things that happen in turkey but this??
i have seen lots of girls who wear scarves when i went to turkey , are they all uneducated???? :-S

10.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Nov 2006 Thu 09:35 pm

Also in the Netherlands there are schools or employers who do not want scarfs. Sometimes you can protest against it. sometimes you cannot. Sometimes I think a prohibition is okay (e.g. in a court house or in a dangerous situation in a factory with heavy machinery) and sometimes I think it is stupid not to allow, I do not mind if the sales lady in a shop wears a scarf or not. And just yesterday the Committee of Equal Rights here said that a muslim teacher does not have to shake hands with her male colleagues. She always did but since August she refuses because of her religion. Her employer told her to take a leave and went to that Committee. Now the Minister of Integration wants to skip the Committee because their verdict is not what she likes to hear....

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