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1.       Elisa
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 17 Nov 2005 Thu 06:46 pm

I need a new zipper for my winter coat. If I would like to ask that in a shop, which of the following is best?

- "Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için istiyorum lütfen"
or
- "Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyorum"
or
- "Bu palto yeni bir fermuar gerektiriyor"

I also found that "ihtiyacı olmak" means "to need", but I have no idea how to use it in a sentence? Where do I use olmak?

Someone help me please, because it's getting really cold and nasty overhere, I almost froze to death today (well not really, but I need that coat quite urgently

çok tesekkürler
Elisa

2.       cyrano
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 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:02 pm

Quote:

Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için istiyorum lütfen



"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar istiyorum. Lütfen!"
or

"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar edinebilir miyim/isteyebilir miyim/rica edebilir miyim, lütfen?"

Quote:

Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyorum



"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar gerekiyor" or
"Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyor."

Quote:

Bu palto yeni bir fermuar gerektiriyor



Oh! This is a perfect expression in causative form!

Quote:

I also found that "ihtiyacı olmak" means "to need", but I have no idea how to use it in a sentence? Where do I use olmak?



You know, "ihtiyacı olmak" is in infinitive form and when we use it in a sentence, especially with the first person", "olmak" generally replaces with "var". For example:

Bir paltoya "ihtiyacım var."

3.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:07 pm

VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES

Bu manto (assuming it is your own garment:ladies overcoat is called "manto", "palto" is gents' overcoat) için yeni bir fermuara ihtiyacım var.
(I need a new zipper for this ladies' overcoat.)

Mantom için yeni bir fermuar istiyorum. (I want a new zipper for my overcoat)

Mantom için yeni bir fermuar gerekli. Sizde uygunu varmı? (A new ( or replacement) zipper is required for my overcoat. Do you have a suitable one?)

Bana bu mantoya uygun yeni bir fermuar verirmisiniz, lütfen? (Can you pls give me a new (replacement) zipper, suitable for this overcoat?)

NOTE: A "manto" or "palto" generally has front buttons, not a zipper. If your overcoat has a zipper, it is probably an "anorak"

4.       edinburgh
3 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:08 pm

Hello Elisa,

You can use one of the following ways to ask for a new zipper from a shop or shopkeeper?

-Paltom icin yeni bir fermuara ihtiyacim var / var dir.
I need a new zipper for my winter coat.

-Paltom icin yeni bir fermuar satin almak istiyorum.= I want to buy/purchase a new zipper for my winter coat.

Or you can ask the shopkeeper:

-Sizde palto icin fermuar bulunur mu? =Do you have a zipper for winter coat?

If the shop keeper says "Yes".
Then you need to ask the following sentence:

Bir tane fermuar satin alabilir miyim, lutfen?= Can I buy /purchase one zipper, please?

I hope the above information is usefull for you.

Regards





5.       Elisa
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 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:14 pm

Quoting cyrano:

Quote:

Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için istiyorum lütfen



"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar istiyorum. Lütfen!"
or

"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar edinebilir miyim/isteyebilir miyim/rica edebilir miyim, lütfen?"

Quote:

Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyorum



Quote:

"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar gerekiyor" or
"Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyor."



I see! I thought that with "gerekmek" I could express that it's me who needs a new zipper for the coat. But in fact you say that it is the coat that needs a new zipper?

Quote:

Bu palto yeni bir fermuar gerektiriyor



Quote:

Oh! This is a perfect expression in causative form!


Well thank you But what is the difference then between gerekmek and gerektirmek? :-s

Quote:

I also found that "ihtiyacı olmak" means "to need", but I have no idea how to use it in a sentence? Where do I use olmak?



Quote:

You know, "ihtiyacı olmak" is in infinitive form and when we use it in a sentence, especially with the first person", "olmak" generally replaces with "var". For example:

Bir paltoya "ihtiyacım var."



Hm, this will need a bit of studying for me. But I'll get there. Thanks once again Cyrano!!

6.       Elisa
0 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:19 pm

Thanks to all of you!! Appreciate it!!

(and soon I won't be cold anymore!

7.       Elisa
0 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:24 pm

Quote:

But what is the difference then between gerekmek and gerektirmek?



I forgot, would someone please be so kind to explain this to me? Because I don't quite get that.

Sagol!

8.       cyrano
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 17 Nov 2005 Thu 07:26 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting cyrano:

Quote:


Quote:

Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyorum



Quote:

'Bu palto için yeni bir fermuar gerekiyor' or
'Yeni bir fermuar bu palto için gerekiyor.'



I see! I thought that with 'gerekmek' I could express that it's me who needs a new zipper for the coat. But in fact you say that it is the coat that needs a new zipper?/QUOTE]

Sorry! Now I understood!

You could then use "gerek/gereksinim duymak". For eaxmple:

"Bu palto için yeni bir fermuara gerek/gereksinim duyuyorum."

9.       Elisa
0 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 08:10 pm

Thanks

10.       Lyndie
968 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 10:23 pm

Hi, here I am the voice of reason!
Elisa, if all else fails, take your palto/manto/anorak veya ceket into to the appropriate shop. Place it on the counter, indicate with you hands the broken zipper and smile a lot, nodding your head and shrugging expressively. This will get you everything you want in practically every situation, because if there is one thing about turks that exceeds every other nationality is that they really want to help you.

You can also throw back your head a bit uttering CIK! in a loud way simultaneously raising your eyebrows and rolling your eyes a bit - another completely non verbal method of communication which I guarantee will get results!

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