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what is the opinion on this??
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1.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 04:15 pm

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=62219

calislar was found not guilty of article 301..

2.       Mary83
178 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 04:31 pm

Quoting robyn :

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=62219

calislar was found not guilty of article 301..


I cant open this link

3.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 04:34 pm

Quoting Mary83:

Quoting robyn :

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=62219

calislar was found not guilty of article 301..


I cant open this link



works fien for me..i just checked it :-S sorry hun

4.       azade
1606 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 10:45 pm

Turkey really needs to get rid of this law altogether. I'm happy they decided on not "guilty".

5.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 10:49 pm

we all Turkish people want to be most democratical country of world sure,but thats a real a country has to defence itself against to political attacks,otherwise how can a country survive it's exist??

6.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 10:58 pm

MrX67, is THIS more of a threat to the existence of Turkish Republic or to democracy and freedom of speech:

"The passage that landed Çalışlar in court quotes a witness as saying how Atatürk, facing an armed attack by political opponent Topal Osman put on a chador to disguise himself as a woman to flee the presidential palace in Ankara."

It's absolutely ridiculous and contradictory for a country that claims to be democratic to put people to jail or in front of the court for such things.

7.       azade
1606 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 11:02 pm

exactly catwoman. As was the lawsuit against Orhan Pamuk.

It's sad to see but other countries don't take the republic of Turkey seriously because of these kind of episodes.

8.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 11:05 pm

sure noone never can't defence to limiting speech and thinking freedom,but big things starts with the discuising little things,and i feel theres a big attack on Turkey with the different reasons,and all countries has self determinism right,we all watching middle east with big sadness what happened on there after some countries tried to teach and take there democracy..

9.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 11:07 pm

i believe that democracy teachers couldn't pass democracy exam on the last events...

10.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Dec 2006 Wed 11:14 pm

Quoting MrX67:

sure noone never can't defence to limiting speech and thinking freedom,but big things starts with the discuising little things,and i feel theres a big attack on Turkey with the different reasons,and all countries has self determinism right,we all watching middle east with big sadness what happened on there after some countries tried to teach and take there democracy..



big things like what exactly? the Turkish people overthrowing the government? actually, that is exactly what democracy ought to be all about - people controlling the government and not the other way round. freedom of speech means - freedom to say what you think, even if you have negative opinions.
i think what you're saying is that you think that if people are free, then they will do whatever they want, including killing each other, so actually, those things are universally not allowed and the law system should take care of it. expressing opinions is different then being violent and imposing your views on others.
what is happening in Iraq is horrible because innocent people are paying the price for their government's atrocities and games that they were playing with the US and the rest of the world. so don't let your own government play similar games.

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