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mind over heart, or heart over mind???
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20.       enerodesinueve
164 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 07:28 am

Anna.. Torn between two lovers huh? If I were you.. I will still follow my mind. There are a lot of things in your mind that your heart is not aware of.

21.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 10:41 am

I can see where non Turkish speakers get confused on issues related to LOVE. How can one ever fall in love, with a language say like English, where love is assumed to operate either from the brain or the heart ?

Love is an abstract notion that is way too noble to reside in mere lumps of blood&tissue.

As always, the wise old language of Turks offer the solution: LOVE is nested neither in the brain nor the heart. Neither is wide enough.

Turkish language suggests that LOVE resides in and operates from one's 'GÖNÜL'.

If you can ever figure out what exactly GÖNÜL is, let me know too.

22.       enerodesinueve
164 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 11:05 am

Well AlphaF.. let's say that we are rational breings and we interpret love in soooo many ways.

23.       annalovesmed
78 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 11:10 am

Quoting enerodesinueve:

Anna.. Torn between two lovers huh? If I were you.. I will still follow my mind. There are a lot in your mind that your heart is not aware of.



yeah, that's what i did in the first place and what i am still doing now..that's why i'm still with my turkish bf. im trying to forget everything about the past now, although it's not that easy. wish me luck!

24.       Aslan
1070 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 11:23 am

Mind over heart = not in love

Heart over mind = stupid or masochistic

Mind + heart = desirable equation

25.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 11:32 am

TO THE ONE WITH TOO LONG A NAME

That is also why you are sooooo confused.

26.       mella
202 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 11:45 am

Quoting Aslan:

Mind over heart = not in love

Heart over mind = stupid or masochistic

Mind + heart = desirable equation



Aslan,

Very good. I agree, agree, agree.

27.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 12:01 pm

That is it guys,

'GÖNÜL' must be a combination one's mind and heart, in an abstract and spiritual sense...sort of like a joint-venture

28.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 12:03 pm

Quoting enerodesinueve:

Miss Ceyda.. I got your point
..just forgot to put a stress on true meaning of happiness from whence we should become a better person.



yeah... but what is hapiness?? i believe that true hapiness is different for everyone...

29.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 12:06 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I can see where non Turkish speakers get confused on issues related to LOVE. How can one ever fall in love, with a language say like English, where love is assumed to operate either from the brain or the heart ?

Love is an abstract notion that is way too noble to reside in mere lumps of blood&tissue.

As always, the wise old language of Turks offer the solution: LOVE is nested neither in the brain nor the heart. Neither is wide enough.

Turkish language suggests that LOVE resides in and operates from one's 'GÖNÜL'.

If you can ever figure out what exactly GÖNÜL is, let me know too.



so gönül... yeah.. im liking this word... thats another great thing about turkish.. theres usually a word or expression for everything so back to the gönül thang... how could this be used in a normal sentence eh??
i need to say it to someone hihi

30.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Nov 2005 Wed 01:23 pm

Mis Ceyda..
The beginning of a Turkish song for you; may come in handy one day, if you can figure out what it means.

Gönlümün sahibi sensin,
Orda yanlız sen varsın...
Benim için sen herşeysin,
Neş'esin, baharsın...

Ömür geçip de saçlarıma
Beyazlar dolsa bile,
Benim için sen herşeysin
Neş'esin, baharsın...

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