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Can it be true love or am I deluded?
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20.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 30 Nov 2005 Wed 03:00 am

its one life, live it!!

21.       xanthea
83 posts
 30 Nov 2005 Wed 03:35 pm

hi tiny
you best keep us informed of what ya do and if ya get there
hopefully iwillget to see my boyfriend soon
allt he best

22.       mltm
3690 posts
 30 Nov 2005 Wed 07:28 pm

Quoting sophie:

Quoting mltm:


yes, otherwise there would be no happy couple in Turkey...



The same story was told about greek men 5-10 maybe 20 years ago. That they were after foreign women, so that they could get a visa and a better future in a foreign country, through a marriage. And yes, there is no smoke without a fire. Ofcourse some did this. But most fell in love with foreign women just because they were so much different from the greek ones. Was it their free spirit? Their independance? Their powerful personalities? I have no idea! But they were different. And this made greek men fall in love with them. It was their heart beating, not their ambition to move in a different country, or take advantage of their wealth.
And if they were manipulating those women, then how come most of those couples live permanently in greece and have never moved to any of those women's motherland? I wonder...



Did they? I don't really know much about Greeks, but I know that they're similar to Turks. I think new things, new cultures always attract people. You've seen and known the men in your country but you don't know the others, and you find somethings that you haven't seen in others, so you become interested and try to discover and enjoy it. And in the beginning or during this discovery, you can fall in love. We're all human, and despite the differences, we all have a heart and a soul.

Beyond this, there's the bad side too, taking advantage of someone, but I cannot see it as a very particular ethnical thing, because when you live a poor life, when your future seems like a deep, dark well, you begin to think of every possibility. Being stuck in a country and not being able to move to another country to make your future better, living a good life in the level of the europeans isn't something the europeans understand really. There're not many choices for these people.I don't support them, but I can't totally find them guilty. Then, take care of yourself, because everyone does this in the first place, open your eyes and don't trust very easily.

sophie my words arent for you :=)

23.       Aslan
1070 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 06:44 pm

I don´t think that it is a good thing to buy and sell human beings...no matter if we are talking about men selling themselves to women, or the other way around...or if we are talking about other kinds of prostitution.
I think that if we look closer to the subject we will find that it is far more common than we think at first...though it is still more common that women sell themselves to men, I believe...
The issue is really not about the women being old, fat and ugly and the men young and poor...but the selling-buying thing, right?
At least that is my opinion...maybe it is based on the fact that I am old, fat and rich? Noooo...I don´t think so...

24.       ramayan
2633 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 06:49 pm

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....

25.       ~crissie~
58 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 07:21 pm

Quoting ramayan:

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....


i completely agree with this
i think that if you are happy together then stop worrying like i did and just injoy life
you only live once
take care
cyas

26.       patience
0 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 07:36 pm

drugs can make you feel happy, too.. would you say "no need to discuss.. if they can smile, just leave them alone"? of course not..
some relationships will put a big smile on your face.. but it will turn into pain and misery afterwards, if its just about having good time together.. and you may miss a lot bigger thing while you re having that relationship..
knowing the truth is more important than being happy but in a delusion.. if he doesnt really love you, what joy will it bring to you? people should look for the true and everlasting things.. (i may sound like i am preaching, huh?)
but yet, those who find the true love are those who take the risk..
(i havent read the previous posts.. so i might be off the line.. but who cares since i told what i wanted to say)

Quoting ramayan:

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....

27.       Lyndie
968 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 07:37 pm

Quoting ~crissie~:

Quoting ramayan:

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....


i completely agree with this
i think that if you are happy together then stop worrying like i did and just injoy life
you only live once
take care
cyas



Bravo Ramayan. This was a very sensible and sensitive observation. I also agree with you and Cyas. Sui Generis also said. 'you have only one life. Live it'! No one knows what will happen in the future. Aferin!

28.       ramayan
2633 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 08:15 pm

Quoting patience:

drugs can make you feel happy, too.. would you say "no need to discuss.. if they can smile, just leave them alone"? of course not..
some relationships will put a big smile on your face.. but it will turn into pain and misery afterwards, if its just about having good time together.. and you may miss a lot bigger thing while you re having that relationship..
knowing the truth is more important than being happy but in a delusion.. if he doesnt really love you, what joy will it bring to you? people should look for the true and everlasting things.. (i may sound like i am preaching, huh?)
but yet, those who find the true love are those who take the risk..
(i havent read the previous posts.. so i might be off the line.. but who cares since i told what i wanted to say)

Quoting ramayan:

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....




u r so pessimistic .....if someone dont love how can he or she smile really....or how can he or she make someone smile....anyway...everybody has their won life style....and everybody and everything has an end...so we must take maximum pleasure from life....(at least i think so)bcos we have limited time...

29.       ramayan
2633 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 08:20 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

Quoting ~crissie~:

Quoting ramayan:

here a man's idea......if the woman and man are happy no need to discuss this......if they can smile ,if they can spend good time......just leave them alone.....


i completely agree with this
i think that if you are happy together then stop worrying like i did and just injoy life
you only live once
take care
cyas



Bravo Ramayan. This was a very sensible and sensitive observation. I also agree with you and Cyas. Sui Generis also said. 'you have only one life. Live it'! No one knows what will happen in the future. Aferin!




we have one life...good ...u agreed with me

30.       patience
0 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 08:30 pm

thats exactly what i meant.. we have one life.. so live it right!
and you know people can laught deliriously but yet they are in delusion.. for example i have my best smiling times when someone falls on the ground on their butts where is love in this situation?
its just childish talk you re having.. cliché.. using the phrases "maximum pleassure from life", "limited time" will not make it right you should have really strong arguments.. anyway.. i am a pessimist.. and i ll keep looking for that you will never have not the easy way but the best way.. for maximum pleassure.. ahaha..

Quoting ramayan:

u r so pessimistic .....if someone dont love how can he or she smile really....or how can he or she make someone smile....anyway...everybody has their won life style....and everybody and everything has an end...so we must take maximum pleasure from life....(at least i think so)bcos we have limited time...

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