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ALL-TIME 25 POETS
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 01:26 am |
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Quoting slavica: Quoting Quasimodo: Slavica - I must also add this: If it hadn't been for Mayakovky, Nazim Hikmet and Pablo Neruda, for example, whom, I know, you do like very much, had never existed as two great poets of the century! |
OK, may I modify my message?
I don't like Mayakovski. I don't like any of his poems. This is my personal opinion. It doesn't mean that he was not great.
Satisfied now?
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But I like your poetry, if it means something for you 
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 01:28 am |
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You know no Soviet authority remained today, but Mayakovsky is still where he had always been! If what you said was true, today no-one would read his poems, no-one would mention him as "a poet", for in that case, he had been forgotten already. But he is still there without any Soviet authority today.
Well, of course, it is your opinion, and the above and my previous posts were a reply to your argument. That's all. No offence, please!
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 01:30 am |
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Quoting slavica: Quoting slavica: Quoting Quasimodo: Slavica - I must also add this: If it hadn't been for Mayakovky, Nazim Hikmet and Pablo Neruda, for example, whom, I know, you do like very much, had never existed as two great poets of the century! |
OK, may I modify my message?
I don't like Mayakovski. I don't like any of his poems. This is my personal opinion. It doesn't mean that he was not great.
Satisfied now?
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But I like your poetry, if it means something for you |
I like, too. Thank you!
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 01:51 am |
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Quoting vineyards: If Ahmet Selcuk Ilkan is a poet then I dub myself Shakespeare.
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I’ve read and really loved some poems of Ahmet Selçuk İlkan, not having an idea that he was not a poet.
Should I remove his name from my list, Mr. Shakespeare?
Or I have right to decide myself whom I will conceive poet and whom not?
Quoting vineyards:
There is nothing like a top poet. Because there is not just one kind of poetry. There are different tastes instead. Liking Nazim but detesting Ritsos is inconceivable. Poetry is a cultural thing just like kitchen.
You start with a Peruvian poet and end the night with Hayyam without seeking superiority. As you read on you get ready for other tastes too.
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Who asked for a top poet? Niobe’s question was who are our 25 favorite poets and, as I can see, people mostly posted lists of their favorite poets, according to their tastes, and not detesting others’ tastes. So what is the problem?
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:02 am |
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:17 am |
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Well, Slavica, it seems you take offence from whatever we write. No one can be blamed, for they like this poet or that poet. However I think anyone has right to express their opinion and can make some criticism. As you noticed, no-one blamed you and the other user who posted on Mayakovksy first since you expressed your opinion on him. But you might have satisfied with not adding Mayakovsky to your list, mightn't you? And you weren't supposed to comment on him, were you? If you don't like a poet, you simply don't add them to your list, that's all. Then, as long as you make comments on any poet, this creates a right, for lovers of that poet, to reply.
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:18 am |
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I don't feel any hatred here... Categories "great", "good" and "favourite" poets are three different categories... And there are many people who love Shakespeare's plays, but are not crazy about his sonnets. For example, I prefer Leopardi's sonnets.
And to you, Quasimodo:
Quoting Quasimodo: Quoting duda: I always preferred the tragedy of Claude Frollo... |
Well... I must admit you have broken my heart! I don't think I will ever forgive you! |
What I wanted to say is that your new name is just too narrow for your poetry. You don't agree with me that Claude was more tragic figure? And more suitable for your verses? It was a compliment, but you can take it however you wish...
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:23 am |
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:25 am |
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Quoting duda:
And to you, Quasimodo:
Quoting Quasimodo: Quoting duda: I always preferred the tragedy of Claude Frollo... |
Well... I must admit you have broken my heart! I don't think I will ever forgive you! |
What I wanted to say is that your new name is just too narrow for your poetry. You don't agree with me that Claud was more tragic figure? And more suitable for your verses? It was a compliment, but yu can take it however you wish... |
Yeah, with reference to poetry and being poetic, you are right. But I think I,as Qusimodo, merit Esmeralda so much more than as Claud, which is the most important point for me. Who would care poetry compared with Esmeralda herself? Poetry can only take her, for itself, as only subject. But how about having Esmeralda herself?
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:26 am |
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Quoting duda: I don't feel any hatred here... |
yeah no hatred... it was just know-it-alls ego...
Ahmet Selcuk İlkan may sound too arabesk may be not that intellectual...
but he has given lyrics to very well known singers, like Zerrin Özer...
if we expect some regard, i believe, first of all we must watch our words...
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12 Mar 2007 Mon 02:29 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Duda that is completely your own assumption. What you are saying is not based on any publicly available data. For example I like his sonnets more than I do many of his plays. This is my taste. Everyone has a right to have a taste.
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Well, it IS based on MANY publicly available data. Read more about Leopardi, please. AND Leopardi, please. But I am NOT saying that Shakespeare is better or that Leopardi is better. I said "I prefer", as you could read. You was the first one who started about tastes. What Slavica and Quasimodo are doing is a discussion. Discussion doesn't mean quarreling. We talk about our preferences here and we try not to offend anybody or to humiliate someone's taste. Thanks.
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