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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 19 Sep 2007 Wed 07:59 pm

Can anyone tell me about the Hrant Dink-song of this performer?

2.       oeince
582 posts
 19 Sep 2007 Wed 08:54 pm

Plan Yapmayın Plan

Gitmez Karadeniz’de

Kahpelik yalan dolan

Tutmaz Karadeniz’de


Bırakın çan çalmayı

Ermenici olmayı

Millet böyle dolmayı

Yutmaz Karadeniz’de.


O gün öyle desinler

Bugün böyle desinler

Fatihalar, Yasinler

Bitmez Karadeniz’de.


Şerefini Şanını

ortaya kor canını

Hiç kimse vatanını

Satmaz Karadeniz’de


Anladık var öcünüz

Belli kuyruk acınız

Kargaşaya gücünüz Yetmez Karadeniz’de


Vatan satsa bir kişi

Anında biter işi

Türk ve İslam güneşi

Batmaz Karadeniz’de

3.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Sep 2007 Wed 09:09 pm

THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION PLEASE

4.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Sep 2007 Thu 08:44 pm

Question repeated, can anyone translate it please?

5.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 20 Sep 2007 Thu 09:25 pm

Well ... it kinda turns my stomach to do this ... I love this country, but categorically disagree with some Turks who think love of their country gives them the right to encourage young kids into the type of blind patriotism that leads to murder ... no different from those brain washing and encouraging the young suicide bombers in other countries.

I offer you this rough translation as you are wanting to learn and understand, not because I think the words deserve translating, and dedicate it to the memory of the priest in Trabzon, Hrant Dink and the three Christians in Malatya (some who left young children as precious orphans), and to the very many peaceloving people in the Black Sea.


Don't make plans
Plans don't work in the Black Sea region
Doublecrossing (prostitution), lies and deception
Don't catch on in the Black Sea region

Quit ringing your bells
Quit being Armenian
The people don't swallow that type of
Deception in the Black Sea region

Let them say those days were those days
Let them say today is today
Fatihas and Yasins (the alleged murderers)
Will live on in the Black Sea region


The Glory of Honor
for your soul
No one sells the Fatherland
in the Black Sea region


We understood your revenge
It is clear your pain
Confusion, your strength is not enough
in the Black Sea region

If someone sells out the Fatherland
The job finishes then
The Turkish and Islamic sun
Will never set in the Black Sea region

6.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Sep 2007 Thu 09:29 pm

Thanks Marion for your translation, I appreciate it very much. I already thought it was something like that, it was discussed (the song, not the lyrics) on a Dutch site so I wanted to know what it was all about. And if you as translater or any mod think its not ok, then please delete it.

7.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 20 Sep 2007 Thu 09:40 pm

Trudy, I did it for you and Roswitha as I respect you as fellow Turkey-lovers.

Serious problems need serious discussion from serious thinkers who are trying to understand the serious issues involved. So it is fair that you see the type of terrible words this guy is singing.

We need to make progress in free speech in a democracy, but is praising murderers and encouraging civil unrest in a democracy going too far. Turkey is currently going through a lot of issues related to "what does democracy really mean?" Those of us who love the ountry hope and pray Turkey finds the best answer to that Q. Maybe the whole peace of Europe and the region depend on it.


Hrant Dink writes some comments in the newspapers and an ultra right-wing prosecutor sues him over insulting Turkishness.

This guy writes a song that is pure incitement to violence, record companies produce it, people sell it and play it on TV and no one has been prosecuted yet! Reminds me of the 1930s in another country......

I think it was Dietrich Bonhoefer who said something like "When they came for the Jews I didn't protest cos I wasn't a Jew. When they came for the gays I didn't protest 'cos I wasn't a gay .... then when they came for me there was no one left to protest."

8.       oeince
582 posts
 20 Sep 2007 Thu 09:48 pm

Well Said Marionin...Yes Turkey judge its values nowadays..but as i can see the result of that period will be a more democratic turkey..

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