A forum for suggestions about the web site was offered by both weber and bod. I think it is better to have this as a sticky thread instead of a separate forum. All suggestions and ideas for improving the site are welcome. Even if the changes are not implemented immediately, they will be recorded here in this thread for reference when necessary.

1-Organizing Contents: Now that there are a considerable number of posts, lots of stuff need to be organized in the “Turkish Language Forum Section”. A thread to discuss how best to organize it can be started and a list of updateable tasks can be distributed to volunteers to put all these grammar and translation posts in two conclusive pages.

2-Tasks & volunteers: Many members seem to be willing to contribute to the site one way or another. A list of ongoing tasks can be prepared and posted in a dedicated thread. Volunteers can pick tasks best suited for them.

3-Personal Detailes: Checking each other’s personal profiles is a continuous task undertaken by all members. It would be very helpful if when the cursor is placed over a member’s name a floating window containing the details of that member is displayed. (sample-1)

4- NEWS FORUMS: Two daily news forums (Turkish news, International news) can be introduced for members to add Headlines with links to the original items. No need to include the articles themselves unless access to the news is not a straight forwards process. This will help to bring local news of different countries on one page.

5- spaces for lists: When trying to make a list in a posting or modifying a message window, puttinig any number of spaces between two words or two letters always returns as one space. Spaces are being ignored. The list ends up like this:
one =bir
hello = Merhaba
nasilsin = How are you
iyiyim = fine
ne haber = what is happening
It would be nicer if we can control the space so that the beginning of the second coloumn is aligned. Something like this

one =.........bir
hello =.......Merhaba
nasilsin =...How are you
iyiyim =......fine
ne haber =.what is happening.

6- Clock: on the main header or between "user statistics" and "new in forums". Members can see when messages were posted but they can not tell what the time is because their computers dispaly their local time. A clock related to the posting time would be hrlpful.
(Sample-2)

7- Forum Latest Messages: Now that there is more traffic and posts, increasing the number of latest messages from 25 to 100 could be appreciated more by users, I would.

I assume this means you would like suggestions for changes/improvements........I have a huge list of (mostly minor) changes that would make the site far easier to use - but I list just two below for the moment.

Make the dictionary open in one window
Currently, double clicking a word opens that word in another window. Double clicking another word opens yet another window. Before long a user (well, this user!) has many many windows open Can we please arrange that double clicking a word opens a new window the first time but the next time it re-uses the already open dictionary window? If users want massive numbers of dictionary windows they can always Shift+DoubleClick to force a new window!
I can tell you how to do this if you don't already know!

Load the last thread page after update
Currently, when you add a new post to a thread, the start of the thread is displayed. So to check on your post you need to click the ">" link so you can check your post is correctly formatted. Can we have the display go to the last page of the thread in the same way as happens when you modify a post that you previously made?

Please - a very minor change that would make the site lots more functional.......change the tabbing order so that pressing tab from the message box takes you straight to the Send button and not the Add Link button.

when we sign in we actually have to click go with the mouse.. if we could just click enter i think it would be better

can we add some more advanced lessons on the grammer section please??

i thought that i was the only person in this thread for a while there bod..
do you think that they have just made this thread to make us like them and then arent actually planning to take any of our suggests into account???
rudeness!!

Is there a reason why the Türçe characters and the underline options are not available when modifying a post like they are when adding a new thread or post a new entry???

At least they are making a start of it
I really like to see how this website is growing and becoming more helpfully, especially if you see it are mainly the frequent users (who have most right of speaking i guess), are offerring their help

I'd like to take one of those tasks to contribute a bit, because i cannot help with turkish language and i dont wanan feel totally useless because i get great help here.

What time is Turkish Class website set at??? I'm sort of guessing it is a state in USA? Wouldn't it be better to set it at TURKISH TIME?

I agree - Turkish time would be a great idea

I think so too As most people receive mails and sms from (mostly) guys in Türkiye, I'm sure they are all familiar with that time-zone

I agree about the lay-out. It shouldn't become too complicated bec it will distract (i vote for simple but design), but this grey looks kinda unprofessional if i may say so. With paintshop for example, you could make a beautiful background-lay-out with pictures from turkiye or the turkish flag or something

i think this thread has just been made for the sake of it coz i can see that none of this is being done hehe

Well, time for me to add my comments.
In the first place, lets remember that this site is not that old and the improvements made since I joined about one year ago are too many to comment on. Personally I like the 'grey' fomat. It may not look as 'chi chi' as some of the other sites, but to my mind it is 'comfortable' and friendly. Nothing assaulting your eyes.

My only suggestions at the moment for a small improvement is that since the arrival of the new dictionary, you can't copy and past your word out of it because the whole page highlights.

I also actually think that the 'My Turkish Boyfriend/Girlfriend' forum should be reinstated. The point being is that so many people are on this site because of their bf's and gf's, that the discussions were, I believe, highly educational. Reading about other people's experiences, if you can relate to them, is a perfect way of understanding Turkish culture and mentality. People still discuss their bf's and gf's anyway, they just do it in other forums which detracts from the point of the forum. I know this is a 'language' class, but every language programme must include cultural lessons also and the bf/gf forums were a rich source of cultural education and understanding.

I personally like the grey format - it is the easy to read and a good background colour.

Is there a chance we could have a different poetry and literature forum topic, seperated from the turkish one? And maybe a moderator could move the foreign literature and the personal attempts to write poetry there?
One could be strictly informational, and the other more like the general/off topic forum, where whoever wishes to, could present his writtings.
If I m not mistaken, the tittle of the existing one is Discussions on Turkish poetry and literature

This mess that now appears as soon as you open the poetry and literature forum, I don't think that is what we were dreaming of, when we were asking 'our' cultural forums back.
So maybe a new forum topic like 'Discussions on our members' poetry and literature' is essential?

+4
I know some people here feel so much at home here that they bravely publish their own pieces of writing. Much as I am impressed by their courage and enthusiasm, I would rather see POETRY and LITERATURE when I check out the POETRY and LITERATURE category. It is a great idea Sophie to create a new place on TC where they could share their writing with others who would surely provide them with lots of friendly encouragement

A question.......

Why does the form for mosting new things to the forums require a 'phone number - and where do you put it ???

*confused*

Forum is good at this style, but i see many better forums like php-nuke. i mean better as view and usage, you may think about the changing the forum, i advise that type.

Can we have the dictionary working again please?????

Since it was revamped, some words with Türk characters do not work when double clicked

Try double clicking the following:
köpek
uçak
büğemek

PICTURE UPLOADS

why do they take so long????

When writing a message to post on the forum there are turkish letters at the top to click on. Can these possibly be added when writing a private message lütfen

Have you got it working now then ???

çok iyi dostum

This problem is now corrected by admin. I think the double click dictionary works perfect now.

Please report any further problem you have with the dictionary as we are considering some more updates.

I was reading this thread again from the beginning and even though we were late and we didn't comply with all request, we did so with some of them. Cultural forums are back and the dictionary works again. Hopefully the buttons will be added to modify message and personal message pages as well.

Please give us more feedback. We are listenin to you.

Ok,why is the registration for at the dictionary ?

And why when i've tried to log in with my nic here it said it is invalid ,and i had to register again ???

Shouldn't we already been registered there cause we are registered at the main site,which is TC ???

Thank you for all the suggestions and comments. We are currently working on TurkishDictionary.net and will get to the problems listed here as soon as dictionary is in a stable form. Time never seems enough. After a long time, major changes are in the horizon to gear the site towards a more Turkish language-oriented form.

And Canli, I was thinking that the dictionary will have a different-independent user profile that will let users to add words and meanings. But I should think again, integrating with TurkishClass user profiles also makes sense. It would be great if we can list pros and cons of both approaches so that we can pick one.

My picks:
Benefits of separate user lists:
-> Easier to implement, meaning less annoying bugs to deal with.
-> Two websites can be easily deployed on different servers when necessary. (This is important)
-> Some users might not want to be automatically added as a member to dictionary, taking consent is always a good idea.
-> Having "real" users with e-mail addresses is important and this is how membership started on the dictionary, e-mail verification is required. There are many dummy user accounts in TurkishClass. (E-mail verification will be added there as well)

Benefits of integrating the two:
-> Users won't have to create separate accounts.
-> There will be many users to start with.
-> TurkishClass users are already using the dictionary, and there is currently a degree of integration of two sites, so it might be intuitive to use TurkishClass accounts for the dictionary.

At this point, I am more tempted to having separate user pools for the two sites, but I am definitely interested in what others think.

Welcome back!!!
We are very happy to see you here. I think we all were waiting for this day.
Good luck in your project. I think it is great idea.
Thank you!

Welcome back first
Cann't wait to hear all about the trip,and see the pictures,and hoping for videos as well ,,lol
Nope,not greedy really,but cann't wait to see Türkiye

İ see your point here about the dictionary,and if it will be seperated then we can have the same profile that we are having at TC,at the dictionary as well
So it won't take more than 1 min from us to creat the account and that won't be a problem
Specially if this will be better technically,i guess none of us will mind that
And it would be easy to have the benefits of integrating the two even when they are sperated

There still will be many users to start with as well,many of TC users won't mind registering for the dictionary,specially cause they already using it

İ for example prefer to open a page for the dictionary all the times,even while i am at TC

And it is really a great idea to have a user profile,if it is going to allow us to save the words,and expressions that we feel we need them handy all the time

And i have a suggestion to make here,or couples,,lol
İf i may ,

why don't we have independent sections ?

Like section for the most common expressions Türkler use in daily life ,like Merhaba,nasılsın,tşk,ne haber ne yok ?
things like that

Another section for common words,like peki ,ay,and there is something i don't remember it,i say it at chat room here between Türkler,maybe woh,or something like that
Things we cann't search it at dictionary,because you can only know it if you been there,or between Türkler,we can have this here at the dictionary too

Another section for proverbs,we here in my country used it at our daily speaking too,so as Türkler
So why don't we have a section like that for the most common proverbs which frequently used in daily life ?

İt would be great,and unique for the site,and something not provided by other similar sites all in one place

The Dictionary users would feel a Türk caddeler were brought infront of them just in one site
With the all common words,and expresions that can be held between Türkler themselves

And when they travel there,they would understand more what has the dictionary provide them

Well,it is just some ideas,i don't know if it can brought up to life or not, it is not easy i know,

But would be really unique to have this Türkçede 'or Türk?'sözlük,as it is in big English dictionaries like ,Oxford ,Longman,and so

Wish you all the best,and lots of luck ,you all earned them

Great job Çok Tşk

One thing I am not totally sure about is why the dictionary needs user accounts......surely it is a reference rather than a interactive site in the way these forums are interactive.

What can I do as a registered user of the dictionary that I can't do just by visiting it?

But - having it always open in the same window is a huge move forwards.......thank you for that

is it also possible to add a "last page" button to view the forums? (cause some of them have got over 20 pages). i mean, maybe there should be both buttons: "view all" and "last page"

really? didn't know that.. thanx a lot

Is it possible to see the last message posted when I click on a thread? Usually when I click on a thread, I would like to see the last message in that thread. Now what happens when you click on a lengthy thread is you get the first page then you click on the last page. So the first page is skipped without reading it (in most of the cases I believe). This is unnecessary usage of the bandwidth both for the client and the server. Any remedy?

Tick boxes in the PM section, so that you can select the ones you want to have deleted and delete them in one go, instead of having to do them one by one..

Moderators have a 'delete' option for every post in a thread......can normal users have the same option but for just the posts they have made? That way all users could delete their posts if they posted twice by accident or want to remove their post for any other reason.

I can read all my received PM's but not the ones I have sent. I would like to have that option as well.

it would be nice to have a 'top of the page' button at the bottom of each page....some are very long to scroll back up....and no i'm not THAT lazy...I have wrist problems

Add more advanced lessons please!!
The ones already available are good but BY NO MEANS enough!
That would be great...
Thank you!!!!

How about collecting all the grammatical materials in the language section,and sort it under different topics at the Learn Turkish section,and arranging it so some how it can add more advanced grammar to this section ?

İt is hard job i know,especially that you would need to check the information if it is right or not,but i believe there are many people here who would like to help...

Hoping that we would get off their backs and ask less questions..lol

İt would be wonderful really.

merhaba!

for sb who started Turkce derslerini one year ago and has progressed also thanks to this site, I would appreciate some extra grammer lessons accompanied by exercises; after all practice is the key towards knowledge!

tebrikler for all those who have contributed to this site!

I like hahahahahah's better than smilies! I think you really were laughing then!

Hahahahahaha! Libralady - please stop it! Stop it! You will kill me! Hahahahahahahaha!

"Delete your account" option in control panel, so that we can delete our user name when we want.

Merhaba, I seem to be having problems with my "notepad"... every time I try to open it up, it says "Insufficient authorization for Yalınayak:1". Also, I downloaded a pic in the "personal pictures", but when I click the main pic, it doesn't go to my own pics, it goes back to "See all personal pictures". But other than that, I think this site is excellent and I'm learning alot already... tesekkür ederim!

Just two things:

1) Why is it when I post a poem (that isn't in turkish) in the "off topics" forum it is moved into the "turkish poetry and literature" forum?...people have quite CLEARLY stated that it isn't turkish and is posted in the wrong forum....just a quick message to those people: I PUT IT IN THE "GENERAL/OFF TOPIC" FORUM!!!

2) It would be alot easier if you could just copy and paste a picture into a thread like you are able to do with word documents.

Hi alll

we need more TESTS at the grammar section

after i study the lesson i take the mini test several times, but i will still be feeling that i need more practice

Same for me. I suppose it is because of the Turkish character in my name, which also prevents me from changing my avatar . Can the notebook issue be fixed??

Merhaba harikayim, I was thinking that the Turkish letter "ı" was the problem too. I think it's cool if nobody sees my pic or avatar, but it would be good to be able to use our notebooks. Can we change our nicks to look more English lol? Kendine iyi bak

Well,i had same problem,and that was 4 monthes ago,i was under _Canlı ,and things were very bad using a Turkish characters,even no chat room,but i don't use much anyhow,and i had to change my nick using English characters.
So i guess things haven't changed then.

CANLI did you also have trouble sending private messages?? I am not sure if any of mine are sending:-S :-S

Yes,i had same too,and i thought same,and i never got reply,or not always,but i received your message,and sent you one also.
You better change the nick,now everything is ok with me.
Maybe writting it in capital .

Ha!! I have figured it all out... now that I have registered my new nick as harikayim, I see that all the replies were sent to this imaginary account

Merhaba harikayim ve CANLI... tesekkur ederim CANLI, I too just changed my nick to caps and yes, everything works great now. I just got a reply message from 11-4 that someone had sent, with a very kind offer to assist me with my Turkish, so I'm finally going to reply, lol. I can see that there's lots of cool people on this site that want to help

Dear dear Admin! Thank you soooooo much for the separate translation section for "most recent messages". You are a star!

Hey that's great! Thank you Admin!

yeh cheers

Also my thanks from the bottom of my heart!

I posted my many thanks here

But Thanks again Fatih!

FOR THE LAST TIME HIS NAME IS FATIH! F...A...T...I...H..

İ have a suggestion considering the dictionary.

Why don't we have the word pronunciation written beside the word ?
As like those words in the English dictionary,

Examples:

other ' údhu(r)
overlook [n] 'owvur`lûk coast kowst
overlook [v] `owvur'lûk deny di'nI

Is there a quick way to delete PMs? I have been lazy in spring-cleaning lately and they have built up!!! I have been deleting them for about half an hour and I am still on ones dated 23rd February!

Brilliant news!! I have over 600 messages to delete so an easy way would be right up my street too!

Why doesn't Bod make a Firefox extention for Turkish Dictionary of this site? It would be really useful for us who use Firefox as browser.

İt would be nice if when you start a forum topic you become the moderator of this topic.
I started a topic and some people made very good and relevant replies. But others where not relevant and, worse, not a word of turkish in them. Then some people started to use the forum topic for personal and boring chat messages.
All the time the quotes become longer and it takes forever to go through the topic and find some turkish.
I want to be able to clean it up so that it is interesting for people who study turkish.

hoşÃ§a kalın

But Atrila, in that case you open the road for ALL the forums of this website to be censured by whomever wants to delete whatever is or is not relevant for a thread.

I think its not a good idea, since there will be just as much people who would abuse this possibility.

Isn't going off-topic an old TC tradition?

The following line be added to "The terms and conditions":

"I have read and accept that the user pagliaccio is nothing but a bastard and an asshole."

As we are talking in here,then i have a suggestion about the Dictionary admin,we can consider it related to TC as well.
Well,adding voice files to the dictionary was a great idea,so can we expand in it and we make it read whatever Turkish word we want ?
İ mean like 'Talk İT' program,it can pronounce whatever you write.
So when we have some difficulties in pronouncing the word after adding the suffix,we can use it there.
Can we do it ?

OMG! A virgin, clean, unspoiled language thread......
Somebody stopppppppp meeeeeeeeee

"what do you think, sis"

"awww I am not sure, sis"

"perhaps I am guilty too, sis"

angminae
just keep away from TC suggestions
leave the boring people to boring people

Please can we have a Forum specifically devoted to Turkish Art? There is one for poetry anf literature, so why not Art? PLEASE

Is there a possibility for a function that shows if a sent PM has been read? Like a reading confirmation?

Quoting bydand

But aenigma that was only an aside with bod who introduced the thread

 Don´t put the blame on me

Would it be possible to have threads set up for printing (the way some of the classes are, where you can go to print view and have a nice printout of the class)? I think it would be helpful, some threads are great and very informational, especially in the language/translation forums and it would be nice if you could print them up in a nice format - and maybe even edit them before printing to remove the "extra"stuff and keep the things that one´s interested in learning.

Thanks.

I suppose that could be done...

Thank you for even giving it a thought  

Dear Almighty Admin, could you please add text color to our preview window? That would save me lots of effort trying to find out which tags actually work here

(Sorry for posting it again, but the first time was in a wrong thread - Canli, can you delete what I posted there?)

Done .

Done.

Forum message edit functionality is re-enabled with some minor tweaks and some security enhancements. 

Hmm, I think it is better to keep the private messaging more like e-mails to keep the privacy of the recipient. Does anyone have a preference on this? 

Thank you!!!

 Ã go with the privacy thing too.

 thank you.i can ammend all my spelling errors ha ha

 Keeping it like e-mails? E-mails offer that possibility, don´t they? (At least mine does, not Hotmail no, but my account from my provider does.)

If you edit a post of a long time ago, the thread of edited post should be displayed in latest threads list.

Scenario:

You edit your one year old post in an inactive thread. How would others know about this edit?

 it was possible to do so. and i had a nightmare finding old posts of some members to quote that were silently and quickly modifed.

but now i think it is a great idea to display the reason and time of modification.

admin,

thank you for a new post modification method. good job!

Maybe you should upgrade the forum motor, because it is a bit old. The new Bulletin type forums have so many extra funcions what could be useful here too.

Merhaba,

i hope to make an exam on the site and acirtificate for the levels in turkish

thanks tc for your efforts to make all learners know tukish language

teşkkür edriz

When we add comments to columnists or essays I see our avatar is included. I also notice some people have avatars that are different to the selection offered on this site. Is there a way of adding your own avatar, or is this only available to a select few? 

I have bought a new ~51cm wide monitor and the pages are displayed in the center as  ~24cm wide only.

Wikipedia for example nicely fills all the screen width.

Wouldn´t it possible here?

İ dont like this new wallpaper of the site....looks like a baby room. 

 Ah, it´s a party! glitter and confetti

 Maybe...but didnt they find a better one ? 

It´s a "new year´s eve party" wallpaper!!

 Can we have a ´first new year party´ wallpaper ? 

This is among the plans for future work but I am nost sure how soon it can be done.

Custom avatars are currently only available to a select few We will probably extend the avatar selections but I don´t think there will be custom avatars in the near term.

Keeping the page width constant makes it technically simpler to work on the site. I think we will be keeping the width constant to not overcomplicate the page design of all the different sections we have. At least until there is a full-time design person working on the site We don´t use a layout that is too wide to be compatible with the most common screen resolutions used today.

This new year wallpaper will be up for just a few days. We will remove it probably on the 3rd.

Thank you admin for the emoticons ! Super!! 

New emoticons????       <----<   Oh....and I quite smoking 6 months ago (not to brag, it´s just too expensive and difficult to smoke here in CA  there is no place to do it.  You can´t smoke closer than 20´ from a door or window....so that means....) It was time. I hope who ever else still smokes can stop too. It´s like having a monkey off your back!)  still have my nargile though....it´s just too pretty to get rid of....well I´ll just have a and about it....thanks Admin!

Thanks for the new emoticons!  I LOVE THEM!!  Now I can get rid of that voodoo doll I have of you!  Happy New Year!!

Will be nice an emoticon with drinking turkish tea....or  other turkish stuffs..( thanks for nargile)

yes, it will be so nice..I like that nargile and cup of coffee...and a glass of tea...wow..it is the best

 Stop it, that hurts!!!!