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Ahmet Kaya
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20.       Roswitha
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 05:23 am

21.       Roswitha
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 05:29 am

22.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Nov 2007 Fri 05:33 am

That link is a little long.....

23.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Nov 2007 Fri 05:35 am

Hobbak Nar

24.       Roswitha
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 05:45 am

25.       Roswitha
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 06:21 am

26.       aiça
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 11:19 am

Quoting thehandsom:

According to arabesk themes everything is unjust, unfair, sometimes, not worth living the life at all.
Music should give people some pleasure, something else than the pain and sarrow.
But arabesk music does not.



I think I understand a bit... It is difficult though for us (looking and listening from outside) to understand completely. But sometimes I also felt a shiver when hearing arabesk music (I am not even saying "listening"!). It has a strong power, and maybe not a good one... at least that is what I feel...

27.       AEnigma III
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 12:06 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Music should give people some pleasure, something else than the pain and sarrow.



I completely disagree! Music is inspired by all emotion, and more often than not, it's pain and loss which produce the most beautiful music.

Imagine being without all the beautiful requiems from the great classical composers, or the tragic operas by Puccini, or 90% of songs by Radiohead and Muse!!!

A world where music was always happy and jolly always would be hell!!

28.       thehandsom
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 30 Nov 2007 Fri 12:18 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

Music should give people some pleasure, something else than the pain and sarrow.



I completely disagree! Music is inspired by all emotion, and more often than not, it's pain and loss which produce the most beautiful music.

Imagine being without all the beautiful requiems from the great classical composers, or the tragic operas by Puccini, or 90% of songs by Radiohead and Muse!!!

A world where music was always happy and jolly always would be hell!!


You might be right in generic sense about the music.
But however, the pain I am trying to explain is almost self inflicted and mostly non existant. It is almost like shia people beating themselves with chains.
And I am not going to accept that!!

Roswitha please shorten your link..



29.       MrX67
2540 posts
 30 Nov 2007 Fri 01:31 pm

they say music is universal and i think thats not a true recognize,same tune can give big big pleasure for someone while thats only a dirty voice for another one's ears.So i think music is very relative and depend on social,cultural and economic conditions.So Arabesk is the inalienable music of the part of a whole society.And Ahmet Kaya was one of the hit of Turkish protest music,and he was a great musician whatever his political opinions were...

30.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Nov 2007 Fri 01:54 pm

Quoting MrX67:

they say music is universal and i think thats not a true recognize,same tune can give big big pleasure for someone while thats only a dirty voice for another one's ears.So i think music is very relative and depend on social,cultural and economic conditions.So Arabesk is the inalienable music of the part of a whole society.And Ahmet Kaya was one of the hit of Turkish protest music,and he was a great musician whatever his political opinions were...


I think This song is written for Ahmet Kaya by Fikret Kizilok: (I can not find it in youtube)

"Pişşt Barmen sen de bizdensin
Karlı Kayın Ormanı'nda bisiklete binersin di mi?
Baş kaldırıyorum de
Kaldır başını indir kaşını azgın demokrat

Geceleri gökyüzünde
Şairlerin önsözünde
Sağdan vurup sol gözünde
Parsa topla benim için "

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