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200.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:14 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

because im as innocent and good as mrx im gonna join heaven and enjoy the community of peace train, alameda, mrx, qdemir etc, etc.





I think that will be God's punishment on such a bed girl as you.....send you to heaven! lol lol


its definetly a punishment!
but i hope God would be merciful on me by creating a new paradise for me: where i will have 72 wide-dark (can be blue too) eyed male virgins who can do the belly dance, countless slaves (can also be young beautiful boys who look like pearls) rivers full of coke, internet, beaches, what else?

i still dont wanna join your women hell

lets pray to a creator for a new paradise.

201.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:16 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

its definetly a punishment!
but i hope God would be merciful on me by creating a new paradise for me: where i will have 72 wide-dark (can be blue too) eyed male virgins who can do the belly dance, countless slaves (can also be young beautiful boys who look like pearls) rivers full of coke, internet, beaches, what else?



Knowing my luck they would be gay
I agree we need new paradise..... so we need to create new religion for it lol

202.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:22 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

its definetly a punishment!
but i hope God would be merciful on me by creating a new paradise for me: where i will have 72 wide-dark (can be blue too) eyed male virgins who can do the belly dance, countless slaves (can also be young beautiful boys who look like pearls) rivers full of coke, internet, beaches, what else?



Knowing my luck they would be gay
I agree we need new paradise..... so we need to create new religion for it lol


why gays again?
do you think God wouldnt know my preferences to punish me even in paradise?
well, mohammed could make a paradise, why not we?
its very easy, you do some researches on the market and its demands, and there comes a new paradise.

203.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:24 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

its very easy, you do some researches on the market and its demands, and there comes a new paradise.



First we need a new religion. I will start working on the theology, you start deciding it's "dos" and "donts". What do we call it?

204.       Capoeira
575 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 04:48 pm

I haven't read the all of the other posts as I have taken my time to ponder exactly what I wanted to say.

I have to say that I am not a 'religious' person. Religion comes, goes and is swayed by popular culture. I am a person that is interested in finding out 'who' and 'What' God is all about.

My quest has of course been influenced by my upbringing. But my most profound discoveres came from studying Molecular and Cell Biology with a minor in Pure Maths at U.C.Berkeley for three years before becoming a Spanish Lit. major. While studying the sciences I was deeply moved by the leading lecturers and researchers in their field using the terms 'we believe', 'it might point to', 'it suggests' when discussing the lastest finds in biological research regarding the orgins of life. There was no 'FACT' as many so quicly reply when discussing science based on not actually going further than their high school bio class. There are only findings and research that allow one to draw conclusions and most often they are contradicted by other findings and view points or conclusions drawn from others research.

I discovered that even a belief in 'evolution' or 'creation' is merely and purely a belief!

Given these three years that I had very little contact with religion or seeking out God it made me curious to start my own experiments.

I discovered that if I prayed before exams I did better than the exams that I didn't pray before taking. I discovered that my academic GPA improved after taking a day off of studies to observe the Sabbath. I discovered that I physically felt better after abstaining from certain foods and drink. And I was happier and more hopeful about my future after spending time each morning praying and reading the Bible...And I the biggest miracle of all. My father was diagnosed with level 4 cancer. He prayed and trusted God and asked for a longer life. He lived four years with level four cancer!

These are my discoveries. Are they self fulfilled profecies? It is up to others to deliberate over. I can only say that I live in a country that has historical sites that confirm biblical stories. Also there exists a deep sense of strong spiritual guidance and power in my life that I KNOW comes from God.


205.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 05:51 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting CANLI:

And who asked them to be with that man ?lol
Beside women will have what they ask for too

Well,and i didnt speak to anyone there too,i didnt see ALLAH,but i believe HE is there
So im curious isnt it written in the Bible ?!


I actually don't know what's written in the Bible about this, I guess it just says "paradise", you go interpret that. lol

I guess the 72 virgins will probably have to be blow-up dolls, as no woman would actually "wish" to be a prostitute in heaven. :-S lol

There's a joke about that: A guy goes to an imam and asks "will women also have 72 male virgins in heaven?" and the imam says "yes, if they are good muslims, they will". The guy goes home and sees his wife praying... goes to her and says "I know why you're praying, you want to go to heaven to have sex with other men!"


haahaa,that is a good one lol
she should have told him,to go to heaven and get rid of you lol

206.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 06:01 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


Now what you are saying above is quite interesting and it will fuel the speculations about how everything was sent down to the earth in the first place.

Because Allah, who knows the past and the future, decided to send his ayats by looking at particular situations, particular events before sending them.
Then the questions will come into everbody's mind 'why the creater of everything had to wait? did he not know that incident was going to happen? did he need to see those incidents before sending corresponding ayats?'
If you are going to answer above questions Canli, your answer should be NOT 'Allah knows better than us, we cant question why'.


İ didnt understand the last part,but yes of course ALLAH knew it,but human didnt knew it
Human didnt know that was going to happen,so ALLAH didnt sent those ayat BEFORE it happened
You think about it..what would be easier to you,to have a book contain of rules and asked you to know it by heart and do as it says,or
To live it,and feel it and have the rule then ?
Even if you try to educate kids,do you throw all the knowledge in their faces at once,or you do it step by step,and you wait till they have good understanding of the first one before to move to the next ?
İslam and Muslims were like kids,in their first step to learn about İslam.
And i guess to have this kind of interact between ALLAH and people specially when İslam was in the first is great,and supportive too.

Btw,you didnt explain what is takkiye ?

207.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 07:44 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

I haven't read the all of the other posts as I have taken my time to ponder exactly what I wanted to say.

I have to say that I am not a 'religious' person. Religion comes, goes and is swayed by popular culture. I am a person that is interested in finding out 'who' and 'What' God is all about.

My quest has of course been influenced by my upbringing. But my most profound discoveres came from studying Molecular and Cell Biology with a minor in Pure Maths at U.C.Berkeley for three years before becoming a Spanish Lit. major. While studying the sciences I was deeply moved by the leading lecturers and researchers in their field using the terms 'we believe', 'it might point to', 'it suggests' when discussing the lastest finds in biological research regarding the orgins of life. There was no 'FACT' as many so quicly reply when discussing science based on not actually going further than their high school bio class. There are only findings and research that allow one to draw conclusions and most often they are contradicted by other findings and view points or conclusions drawn from others research.

I discovered that even a belief in 'evolution' or 'creation' is merely and purely a belief!

Given these three years that I had very little contact with religion or seeking out God it made me curious to start my own experiments.

I discovered that if I prayed before exams I did better than the exams that I didn't pray before taking. I discovered that my academic GPA improved after taking a day off of studies to observe the Sabbath. I discovered that I physically felt better after abstaining from certain foods and drink. And I was happier and more hopeful about my future after spending time each morning praying and reading the Bible...And I the biggest miracle of all. My father was diagnosed with level 4 cancer. He prayed and trusted God and asked for a longer life. He lived four years with level four cancer!

These are my discoveries. Are they self fulfilled profecies? It is up to others to deliberate over. I can only say that I live in a country that has historical sites that confirm biblical stories. Also there exists a deep sense of strong spiritual guidance and power in my life that I KNOW comes from God.



Thank you for sharing Capo.

208.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 07:46 pm

Quoting CANLI:

she should have told him,to go to heaven and get rid of you lol


lol lol lol

209.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 10:58 pm

I wonder if it would be a good idea to define exactly what we mean by religion. What is religion?

To me it is the awareness that there is more to me than my flesh, there is a transcendental soul that is alive and capable of growth and development. It can also wither and die, or become stunted along the way. Some feel there is an interconnection between all of the seen and the unseen. To me religion is the spiritual path to understand my relationship to that whole.

Having faith/belief is like having another sense. It is like the sense of hearing or smell. Some do not have any awareness of it and don't want it. They are content to live in the world of the flesh, gratifying earthly desires. Some have inkling about it and want it and want others to give it to them. Some loose it and strike out in anguish at the emptiness inside. For those who have it, it is a precious gift that they guard. Even Mother Theresa questioned her faith, but she fought on to keep it.

Religion gives the directions on how to nourish and develop the human soul to be the best it can to get to the next level in the best condition possible.

As in our earthly life with different maps and guides, our job is to pick the one that suites us best. This is like an analogy to our spiritual development and growth. To affect that journey for some that is Islam, Christianity, Judaism or some other religion. Some just accept without question the religion of their parents and community. Others question and seek.

I would not want to attempt a desert crossing without a map and a guide. Some do, some survive, but most do not. Those who attempt the journey alone, even if they do survive, would be in better shape if they had a map and guide.




210.       Animal Mother
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:30 am

Turk's religion was existed before the semitic books announced. Think twice, why those religions appeared only in where semitics live ?

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