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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 10:18 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RokFKTjvJTY&feature=related

2.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:34 pm

Such a great musician and such a great composer...
a great talent that composes the ethnical blacksea region music with the western music...

as usual... the greatest artists love to be missed... and i miss him...

3.       azade
1606 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:43 pm

It's beautiful. I think he, along with other deceased artists we lost too early such as Ahmet Kaya, will be remembered for many years to come.

4.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:50 pm

Quoting azade:

It's beautiful. I think he, along with other deceased artists we lost too early such as Ahmet Kaya, will be remembered for many years to come.



its such a pitty to see that Ahmet Kaya is being compared to Kazim Koyuncu... its such a pitty...

just a question... for how long you know turkish music and culture?

5.       azade
1606 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:51 pm

Why it is a pity?

6.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:53 pm

so cute!! charming girl: Ben Senu Sevduğumi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUskScIlMAc

7.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:54 pm

Quoting azade:

Why it is a pity?



Dont you know that Ahmet Kaya is one of the greatest supporters of PKK... he has records that he was singing infront of PKK flag... so he might be good at his job... but i wouldnt be comparing him with other great singers... such as Kazim Koyuncu...

8.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 02 Jan 2008 Wed 11:58 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting azade:

Why it is a pity?



Dont you know that Ahmet Kaya is one of the greatest supporters of PKK... he has records that he was singing infront of PKK flag... so he might be good at his job... but i wouldnt be comparing him with other great singers... such as Kazim Koyuncu...



I don't like Ahmet Kaya either but there are many people in Turkey which never support PKK but loves Ahmet Kaya very much. Because they love his songs, voice and style. You shouldn't judge people just becasue of their musical taste. Their idologies are different thread to discuss.

There are a lot of people who don't care the political ideas or ideologies of the singers or bands which they love. You shouldn't merge these topics.

9.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:01 am

Quoting caliptrix:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting azade:

Why it is a pity?



Dont you know that Ahmet Kaya is one of the greatest supporters of PKK... he has records that he was singing infront of PKK flag... so he might be good at his job... but i wouldnt be comparing him with other great singers... such as Kazim Koyuncu...



I don't like Ahmet Kaya either but there are many people in Turkey which never support PKK but loves Ahmet Kaya very much. Because they love his songs, voice and style. You shouldn't judge people just becasue of their musical taste. Their idologies are different thread to discuss.

There are a lot of people who don't care the political ideas or ideologies of the singers or bands which they love. You shouldn't merge these topics.



if you have read what i am writing carefully... you wouldnt dare to write these words.. at least spend time for this... i repeat again... ahmet kaya can be good at his music... which is true... but i wouldnt compare or put him at the same class as kazim koyuncu or others...

my point is totally different... i am not saying azade that she shouldnt listen to him or what... i just say my opinion... she asked why and i said my reason... this is such simple occasion...

noone is offending or judging the other... just sharing opinions...

10.       azade
1606 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:04 am

I don't see any reason to turn this into a political post. I simply mentioned Kaya because he was a great musician who passed away too young. I could have mentioned Barış Akarsu as well as he passed away recently but he doesn't really fit into the same musical genre.

Ahmet Kaya was really popular in Turkey until he stated that he wanted to sing songs in kurdish and he had to go into exile because nationalists were out to get him. He's made some great songs in turkish: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DBGql4ejjFM , http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2xkafPmEs

Anyway Kâzım Koyuncu is the musician in question here, and a great one in my opinion.

11.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:08 am

Quoting SuiGeneris:

if you have read what i am writing carefully... you wouldnt dare to write these words.. at least spend time for this... i repeat again... ahmet kaya can be good at his music... which is true... but i wouldnt compare or put him at the same class as kazim koyuncu or others...

my point is totally different... i am not saying azade that she shouldnt listen to him or what... i just say my opinion... she asked why and i said my reason... this is such simple occasion...

noone is offending or judging the other... just sharing opinions...



Sorry, saying "pity" sounds enough to judge to me. Good that you don't say you do that.

When we talk about the singers, we actually don't talk about their characters or ideas. What we talk about are generally their musical image in our minds. So when you say "pity", I would understand that you are talking about the musical image of this singer in our minds. So I would think you talk about my musical taste.

12.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:19 am

Quoting caliptrix:


Sorry, saying "pity" sounds enough to judge to me. Good that you don't say you do that.

When we talk about the singers, we actually don't talk about their characters or ideas. What we talk about are generally their musical image in our minds. So when you say "pity", I would understand that you are talking about the musical image of this singer in our minds. So I would think you talk about my musical taste.



it is still pity for me to put him in the same category with Kazim Koyuncu... i also have a few mp3's of Ahmet Kaya in my archieve...

not only his/her songs or talents make a musician as an adorable person... this is my opinion...

if you are still offending this thread can go further like a chewing gum...
as a result... what we understand from music is different... and this quite normal...

13.       kedycan
165 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:28 am

ahmet kaya and kazim koyuncu can be compared to each other. they share much both in music and worldview.
they were and still are two very talented values of this country. and they loved turkey and it s people very much.

14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:31 am

Quoting kedycan:

and they loved turkey and it s people very much.


Who doesn't?

15.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:31 am

TRUE, KEDYCAN

16.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Jan 2008 Thu 12:33 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting kedycan:

and they loved turkey and it s people very much.


Who doesn't?



so they say

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