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Genetics of Turks in Anatolia (Who really we are!!)
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:51 pm

First of all some brief info about genetics:
I am sure everybody knows something about chromosoms.
Definition of chromosomes from wiki is: "chromosomes are organized structures of DNA and proteins that are found in cells. Chromosomes contain a single continuous piece of DNA, which contains many genes ..."
Appearantly each cell has 23 pairs of them and one of them determines our sex. If you are a female it is XX if you are a male, it is XY. Each egg in woman contains an X chromosom and the sperm brings X or Y chromosom and then here we are
All chromosom pairs are equal in length, however, in men, the XY chromosom, which determines the sex, is not (Y chromosom seems shorter then the X chromosom)
That is the reason Y chromosom dont mix with X chromosom and transfered to the next generation as it is (whereas all other 22 pairs mix from mother and father)
So the moral of above story is that by analyzing the DNA in men (Y-DNA test), you can trace the generations.
According to a survey carried in 2003 on 523 people from different corners of Anatolia the genetic results are below:

- J (North Africa, Middle East, South Europe) yüzde 33.8
- R (Europe) yüzde 24.0
- E ( Africa, South Europe) yüzde 11.4
- G (İran, Circassians) yüzde 11.0
- I (North ve East Europe, yüzde 5.2)
- L (India, yüzde 4.2)
- N (Siberia,Finland) yüzde 3.9
- C, Q, O (Central Asia) yüzde 3.0 (to our racists with love )
- K (Pakistan) yüzde 2.5
-A (Africa) yüzde 1.0

The real source of the article from serdar sabri (radikal) in Turkish

The study in english (boring!!)

2.       Delidolu
344 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:59 pm

uhm.......can u translate this into simple words?

(I am not blonde but do appreciate when u speak slowly,loudly and use small,simple words )

3.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:05 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Turkish_people#Turks_Genetic

4.       christine
443 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:14 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

the XY chromosom, which determines the sex, is not (Y chromosom seems shorter then the X chromosom)



Like you say it is the Y chromosome from the male that determines the sex of the baby.But it is amazing how many men still blame the women when they don't give them a son.

5.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:27 pm

http://dienekes.ifreepages.com/blog/archives/000413.html

6.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:42 pm

The Anatolian Peninsula (Asia Minor) provides an important

geographic link between the Middle East, Asia and

Europe. Accordingly, this region manifests an elaborate

genetic constitution reflecting the consequences of numerous

gene flow, admixture and local differentiation processes

spanning from the late Pleistocene to the present

day (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994). Both environmental and

cultural influences associated with the spread of the Upper

Paleolithic industries (Kuhn 2002), the Last Glacial

Maximum (LGM) and Holocene warming since the

Younger Dryas cold reversal, as well as the introduction

of agriculture and succeeding Bronze Age, Greek, and

Roman presence, may have left detectable traces in the

gene pool. In addition, resettlements from Central Asia

as well as movements during the

Ottoman Empire, including recent exchanges of numerous

Greek and Turk residents based upon religious affiliation

during the 1920s, would add further potential complexity

to the phylogeography patterns in Anatolia. The question

that we ask is it possible to attribute any elements

of the amalgamated Anatolian genetic composition

to any relatively ancient and recent chronologies/populations?

While most human genetic diversity is affected

by recombination, the low effective population size of clonal

Y-chromosome segments enhances them

with greater sensitivity to detect incidents in the demographic

histories of the populations that may otherwise leave

little imprint on the autosomal elements of the gene pool.

The resulting often non-random correlations between binary

marker defined haplogroups with geography

and corresponding short tandem repeat variance

provide a genetic metric with which to

sieve through complex deposits of human history on both

micro-geographic and temporal scales. To begin to better

understand how the succession and magnitude of events

spanning millennia have contributed to the current genetic

composition of Turkey, we have assessed patterns of Y-chromosome

diversity distributed across Turkey plus Istanbul.

The data illuminate numerous long-standing themes, including

the Holocene expansions, contributions of agriculturalists

to the European gene pool and genetic assessment of

Caucasian and Central Asian gene flows.


7.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 04:31 pm

Quoting Delidolu:

uhm.......can u translate this into simple words?

(I am not blonde but do appreciate when u speak slowly,loudly and use small,simple words )


Delidolu))))on behalf of all blondies I protest against discrimination and stereotypes based on hair’s colour.!!!!
It is high time you met Bryan Sykes))))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes

8.       Delidolu
344 posts
 06 Jan 2008 Sun 05:15 pm

Quote:


Delidolu))))on behalf of all blondies I protest against discrimination and stereotypes based on hair’s colour.!!!!
It is high time you met Bryan Sykes))))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes



u ain't living in Greece 2 c where these stereotypes derive from

(playing TABOO with my company of friends...My friend's turn-she's a natural blondie-to name electrical appliances found in the kitchen...answer: SINK! **puzzled look on our faces**....UHM>>NO NO!!!TUB!!! **roaring laughter from us**...She was NOT joking btw.)

9.       E.T.K.O
0 posts
 07 Jan 2008 Mon 05:34 am

How ridiculos article. Was that your constant source that you told about on your every post ? All of those were only 523 people ? This DNA test does not mean anything by alone. What if an African black person carries out Europan gene portions or vice versa? And my blood test shows me Europan blood type i have because of i am a East Europe "Turkic" origin bloke. Probably my DNA test would tell the same thing. Am I Europan ? Nope. I am definitely a Turk.

10.       selin21
206 posts
 07 Jan 2008 Mon 12:58 pm

sallamışlar be, onların amacı bölücülük

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