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Genetics of Turks in Anatolia (Who really we are!!)
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:51 pm |
First of all some brief info about genetics:
I am sure everybody knows something about chromosoms.
Definition of chromosomes from wiki is: "chromosomes are organized structures of DNA and proteins that are found in cells. Chromosomes contain a single continuous piece of DNA, which contains many genes ..."
Appearantly each cell has 23 pairs of them and one of them determines our sex. If you are a female it is XX if you are a male, it is XY. Each egg in woman contains an X chromosom and the sperm brings X or Y chromosom and then here we are
All chromosom pairs are equal in length, however, in men, the XY chromosom, which determines the sex, is not (Y chromosom seems shorter then the X chromosom)
That is the reason Y chromosom dont mix with X chromosom and transfered to the next generation as it is (whereas all other 22 pairs mix from mother and father)
So the moral of above story is that by analyzing the DNA in men (Y-DNA test), you can trace the generations.
According to a survey carried in 2003 on 523 people from different corners of Anatolia the genetic results are below:
- J (North Africa, Middle East, South Europe) yüzde 33.8
- R (Europe) yüzde 24.0
- E ( Africa, South Europe) yüzde 11.4
- G (İran, Circassians) yüzde 11.0
- I (North ve East Europe, yüzde 5.2)
- L (India, yüzde 4.2)
- N (Siberia,Finland) yüzde 3.9
- C, Q, O (Central Asia) yüzde 3.0 (to our racists with love )
- K (Pakistan) yüzde 2.5
-A (Africa) yüzde 1.0
The real source of the article from serdar sabri (radikal) in Turkish
The study in english (boring!!)
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:59 pm |
uhm.......can u translate this into simple words?
(I am not blonde but do appreciate when u speak slowly,loudly and use small,simple words )
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:05 pm |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Turkish_people#Turks_Genetic
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:14 pm |
Quoting thehandsom: the XY chromosom, which determines the sex, is not (Y chromosom seems shorter then the X chromosom) |
Like you say it is the Y chromosome from the male that determines the sex of the baby.But it is amazing how many men still blame the women when they don't give them a son.
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:27 pm |
http://dienekes.ifreepages.com/blog/archives/000413.html
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:42 pm |
The Anatolian Peninsula (Asia Minor) provides an important
geographic link between the Middle East, Asia and
Europe. Accordingly, this region manifests an elaborate
genetic constitution reflecting the consequences of numerous
gene flow, admixture and local differentiation processes
spanning from the late Pleistocene to the present
day (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994). Both environmental and
cultural influences associated with the spread of the Upper
Paleolithic industries (Kuhn 2002), the Last Glacial
Maximum (LGM) and Holocene warming since the
Younger Dryas cold reversal, as well as the introduction
of agriculture and succeeding Bronze Age, Greek, and
Roman presence, may have left detectable traces in the
gene pool. In addition, resettlements from Central Asia
as well as movements during the
Ottoman Empire, including recent exchanges of numerous
Greek and Turk residents based upon religious affiliation
during the 1920s, would add further potential complexity
to the phylogeography patterns in Anatolia. The question
that we ask is it possible to attribute any elements
of the amalgamated Anatolian genetic composition
to any relatively ancient and recent chronologies/populations?
While most human genetic diversity is affected
by recombination, the low effective population size of clonal
Y-chromosome segments enhances them
with greater sensitivity to detect incidents in the demographic
histories of the populations that may otherwise leave
little imprint on the autosomal elements of the gene pool.
The resulting often non-random correlations between binary
marker defined haplogroups with geography
and corresponding short tandem repeat variance
provide a genetic metric with which to
sieve through complex deposits of human history on both
micro-geographic and temporal scales. To begin to better
understand how the succession and magnitude of events
spanning millennia have contributed to the current genetic
composition of Turkey, we have assessed patterns of Y-chromosome
diversity distributed across Turkey plus Istanbul.
The data illuminate numerous long-standing themes, including
the Holocene expansions, contributions of agriculturalists
to the European gene pool and genetic assessment of
Caucasian and Central Asian gene flows.
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 04:31 pm |
Quoting Delidolu: uhm.......can u translate this into simple words?
(I am not blonde but do appreciate when u speak slowly,loudly and use small,simple words ) |
Delidolu))))on behalf of all blondies I protest against discrimination and stereotypes based on hair’s colour.!!!!
It is high time you met Bryan Sykes))))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 05:15 pm |
Quote:
Delidolu))))on behalf of all blondies I protest against discrimination and stereotypes based on hair’s colour.!!!!
It is high time you met Bryan Sykes))))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes
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u ain't living in Greece 2 c where these stereotypes derive from
(playing TABOO with my company of friends...My friend's turn-she's a natural blondie-to name electrical appliances found in the kitchen...answer: SINK! **puzzled look on our faces**....UHM>>NO NO!!!TUB!!! **roaring laughter from us**...She was NOT joking btw.)
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07 Jan 2008 Mon 05:34 am |
How ridiculos article. Was that your constant source that you told about on your every post ? All of those were only 523 people ? This DNA test does not mean anything by alone. What if an African black person carries out Europan gene portions or vice versa? And my blood test shows me Europan blood type i have because of i am a East Europe "Turkic" origin bloke. Probably my DNA test would tell the same thing. Am I Europan ? Nope. I am definitely a Turk.
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07 Jan 2008 Mon 12:58 pm |
sallamışlar be, onların amacı bölücülük
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23 May 2015 Sat 04:31 pm |
Turkey,Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan Presidents origin Turkic Oghuz DNA. Who is real Turk?
%100 be to Turk is not important, it is important to feel themselves Turk. The only thing that unites us is our beautiful language !! DNA is not important.
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24 May 2015 Sun 09:55 am |
Turkey,Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan Presidents origin Turkic Oghuz DNA. Who is real Turk?
%100 be to Turk is not important, it is important to feel themselves Turk. The only thing that unites us is our beautiful language !! DNA is not important.
Yes, indeed!
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