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Use of olmak with nouns
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 01:52 pm |
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I know that olmak can be used with both verbs and adjectives.......but can it be used in exactly the same way with nouns???
For example:
güzelsin - you are beautiful
kötüsün - you are bad
içiyorsun - you are drinking
geliyorsun - you are coming
But can one say things like:
köpeksin - you are a dog
yaramaz bir köpeksin - you are a naughty dog
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 01:56 pm |
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all of your examples are correct 
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 01:58 pm |
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Quoting miss_ceyda: all of your examples are correct |
Thank you
So in that case, how would you distinguish between the first person 'to be' suffix -im and the first person possessive suffix -im ???
köpeğim - my dog
köpeğim - I am a dog
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 02:02 pm |
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i think it would be obvious from the context although you can say
benim köpeğim
and
ben (bir) köpeğim
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 02:18 pm |
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Yes of course - Whilst the first person possessive suffix and the first person 'to be' suffix are the same, I forgot that the personal pronoun is actually different!
*slaps wrist*
*GiGGLe* 
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 02:20 pm |
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True, you can only see it by looking at the context.
There are more of those things, for example arabaları can have two meanings.. you tell me which 
(this has nothing to do with "olmak" though, don't want to confuse you!!)
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 04:40 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: There are more of those things, for example arabaları can have two meanings.. you tell me which |
arabaları - their car
araba-ları = noun + third person plural suffix
arabaları - the cars
araba-lar-ı = noun + plural suffix + accusative state suffix
Am I right???
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 05:19 pm |
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Quoting bod: Quoting Elisa: There are more of those things, for example arabaları can have two meanings.. you tell me which |
arabaları - their car
araba-ları = noun + third person plural suffix
arabaları - the cars
araba-lar-ı = noun + plural suffix + accusative state suffix
Am I right??? |
Yeah 
Could even have a third meaning: their cars.
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05 Feb 2006 Sun 01:03 pm |
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Oh???
Wouldn't "their cars" be arabalarları?
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05 Feb 2006 Sun 01:24 pm |
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Quoting bod: Oh???
Wouldn't "their cars" be arabalarları? |
There is some explanation about that somewhere in this thread.
When there are two plural endings in a word, one drops.
Also, when the subject is plural, there is no need to put the verb in plural anymore.
Example:
Tekneler yavaş yavaş geçiyor
- The ships are passing slowly.
I also found this on this site: The plural ending will not be attached twice to the same word; therefore ambiguity is possible:
fikir "idea",
fikirleri "their idea" or
"their ideas" or
"her [or his] ideas".
Ambiguity can be resolved with #pronouns.
And from
this one: The third person forms are ambiguous: çocukları can be her/his children or their child or their children (the plural is not repeated).
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