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Is there no end to this madness?
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70.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Mar 2008 Mon 11:55 pm

I would definitely agree that there are some examples of lack of mutual understanding (although I still would like to see what exactly they are), but what I find very strange is that Alameda keeps on talking about mutual respect... yet, she never mentions anything that the other side might have done wrong :-S. According to her they are always right about everything and it's always all our fault.... This is hardly fair and far from true.

71.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Mar 2008 Mon 11:58 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting alameda:


Your post was "So THAT'S how it works! You go to the mosque and come back brainwashed! " <--< Note: there was no maybe in it.

"I have not offended anybody in my post" <--< are you sure?

This is not a matter of what you can do in the name of "Free Speech", it's rather a matter of good manners. You know,

Etiquette

In this forum we are dealing with an international community that have different standards of social behavior. We can't expect everyone to understand sarcastic humor.


Wouldn't you have to say that it’s all rather subjective alameda? Just because you find something offensive doesn’t mean the next person will.
A good analogy of this would be how your consistent defense of Adonis. Many of us have a completely different view on his behavior than you do. Maybe he was respectful to you…good for you….but he did not bestow that same honor on anyone who dared to disagree with him.
Anyway, if you are going to criticize one member for not following rules of etiquette then you should at least apply the same standard to everyone, otherwise it is hard to take what you say seriously.



A yes, girleegirl....that paragon of etiquette and moderation. How nice to hear from you again. May I suggest you read this sentance again....I will repost it here to make it simpler for you

"In this forum we are dealing with an international community that have different standards of social behavior. We can't expect everyone to understand sarcastic humor."

Cultural Differences

72.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 12:05 am

Quoting catwoman:

I would definitely agree that there are some examples of lack of mutual understanding (although I still would like to see what exactly they are), but what I find very strange is that Alameda keeps on talking about mutual respect... yet, she never mentions anything that the other side might have done wrong :-S. According to her they are always right about everything and it's always all our fault.... This is hardly fair and far from true.



I never said "they" are always right in any of my posts. I have only commented on the fact that we are not dealing and communicating with an all American or Western audience/membership here. In order to better communicate, if that is the purpose of posting, good manners and some cultural sensitivity is in order.

THE CORE RULES OF NETIQUETTE
Rule 1:Remember the Human Rule 2:Adhere to the same standards of behavior online that you follow in real life Rule 3:Know where you are in cyberspace Rule 4:Respect other people's time and bandwidth Rule 5:Make yourself look good online Rule 6:Share expert knowledge Rule 7:Help keep flame wars under control Rule 8:Respect other people's privacy Rule 9on't abuse your power Rule 10:Be forgiving of other people's mistakes

Post: Those with vivid imaginations are often unreliable in their statements.[8]
Shea: Make yourself look good online: Know what you're talking about and make sense.[9]

NETIQUETTE

73.       geniuda
1070 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 12:07 am

Sorry Alameda, but dont you think he also failed to follow those rules?

74.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 12:09 am

Quoting geniuda:

Sorry Alameda, but dont you think he also failed to follow those rules?



He? Who he? We have been talking about a few things here, so if you could clarify, it would help.

Thank you.

75.       geniuda
1070 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 12:14 am

lol lol lol wrong thread.. ok ok let me post it in the right one

76.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 07:59 am

Quoting alameda:


A yes, girleegirl....that paragon of etiquette and moderation. How nice to hear from you again. May I suggest you read this sentance again....I will repost it here to make it simpler for you

"In this forum we are dealing with an international community that have different standards of social behavior. We can't expect everyone to understand sarcastic humor."

Cultural Differences


Hmmmm, alameda you were obviously insulted by my post and I don't understand why...it was quite polite.
But for the record, I don't need your "lessons" on cultural differences or etiquette or anything else for that matter. You are quite simple to understand.
I have never claimed to be the paragon of anything..that's your department...
But to make it simple for you.....stating that a "cultural" difference makes someone like adonis' behavior acceptable when you obviously consider mine not to be....that is hypocritcal. I hope that is simple enough.

77.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 10:32 am

Alameda, could you be more precise what you mean by netiquette? I'd appreciate if you explained if the following were ok or not:

1. Saying you are against honour killings.
2. Saying you believe people should be free to choose a religion and that imposing a religion on everyone by the state is a violation of human rights.
3. Asking people of different religion why their Holy Book is used by people to justify cruelty/murder
4. Saying that censoring access to information by the state is dictatorship
5. Calling suicide bombers terrorists
6. Telling people to go and 'care of' their husbands instead of posting moron posts
7. Telling those who don't agree with you that the only reason for them not to agree is because of their sex.
8. Using vulgar language and justify it by inadequate knowledge of English
9. Demanding that everybody not only respects but also agrees with your point of view
10. Insulting others in case they disagree with you


I've had many debates here with both 'western' and 'eastern' people. However, never have I come across a person as full of hatred and bias as Adonis. I am surprised you're defending him. In all the debates I kept a polite language and never called anyone names, yet, I was accused of being anti-everything. He goes around using curses rather than arguments and you believe that's perfectly ok. I'm sorry, that's pretty illogical.

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