Archbishop backs sharia law for British Muslims.

The Archbishop of Canterbury prompted controversy today when he said the introduction of sharia law for British Muslims was "unavoidable".

Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4's World at One that Muslims should be able to choose whether to have matters such as marital disputes dealt with under sharia law or the British legal system.

here is the rest..The guardian

And also there was another news about multiple viwes in the UK.
UK legally recognises multiple Islamic wives

Is UK making an example for the rest of EU and the USA?

The Islamic Republic Of UK...

The world has gone mad!!! This is a man who is supposed to guide Christians....he is leading them straight into the arms of immutable islamic law. I guess that is why such a small percentage of the English population goes to church.

Thehandsom, you started this thread for femme, didn't you?

i completly agree with a grey hair (out of wisdom) mr cantenbury

in a support to my statement watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtBEg3PL4kc

and you will understand why shariah law is OK.

some responses to his calls:
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iGiJ20i-4DaWwf5VQW7kIFiBrlpA
Alistair McBay, spokesman for the National Secular Society said: "In a plural society, all citizens are equal under the law and the Archbishop's comments directly undermines this.

"We have segregated schools, segregated scout groups and even segregated toilets for Muslims, and now the Archbishop says we should have different laws, it's madness. On the one hand religious groups say they want to integrate, but actually they want to segregate."

Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said Dr Williams' comments were "muddled and unhelpful"

handsome,

thank you

i just adore you

Trevor Phillips is a moron. hes an absolute ignorant he doesnt know what hes talking about!

Is is definitely OUR BUSINESS!
Ama dont upset our PEACEFUL UK members with such slanderous posts thehandsom

Handsom.....you should have named this thread...Why I love the UK IV!!!

thehandsome

harems actually are not so bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRMW5j-C_g

Handsom I am very angry that you created this thread. You have given no consideration to my reputation. I have long been accused of exaggeration about "extremist Islam" in the UK and I am proud of that

What the hell will I do now? Post poems?

Alameda - seriously.... don't patronise us!!! I think I can safely say that all the people taking part in that discussion are fully aware of the four "schools" of Sharia.

To be frank, the point is that NONE of them should be made part of British law to accomodate muslim immigrants - under ANY circumstances.

This is not racism - it is fundementally WRONG. All citizens of a country should be treated EQUALLY by it's laws.

We dont have Sharia law in our law lol
Somethings goes with Sharia and some not.

Femme I loved your link and agree it is the ONLY WAY forward for the UK (could we not make the laws apply to EVERYONE?) . In particular, my ears pricked up at the mention of Islamic interest-free mortages! I suddenly feel the need to convert to Islam ....where do I sign up?

If someone wishes to live under sharia law, its very simple: back your bags and move to a country where it is in use. If that's too much to ask for your so-called life-principles, then get your hands off our legal system and democracy!

pat condell, evil brit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM2dC1iWzww

Wonderful!
I love this guy. Some of our "English bedwetters" on this site could do with watching this....

another crazy video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7iBoq_yC4k

for the british ignorants

from BBC


Williams 'shocked' at Sharia row

The Archbishop of Canterbury is said to be overwhelmed by the "hostility of the response" after his call for parts of Sharia law to be recognised in the UK. Friends of Dr Rowan Williams say he is in a state of shock and cannot believe the criticism from his own Church.
All the main political parties, secular groups and some senior Muslims have expressed dismay at his comments.
However, the Bishop of Hulme, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, criticised the "disgraceful" treatment of Dr Williams.
The BBC understands from sources who work on Christian-Muslim interfaith issues that Dr Williams has faced a barrage of criticism from within the Church and has been genuinely taken aback by how his words were received.
Resignation call

Islamic Sharia law is a legal and social code designed to help Muslims live their daily lives, but it has proved controversial in the West for the extreme nature of some of its punishments.
Culture Secretary Andy Burnham said moves such as those suggested by the archbishop would create "social chaos".
The Reverend Rod Thomas, chairman of evangelical Church group Reform, said the archbishop's comments were unhelpful.
"The Church at the moment, and the country, needs a clear lead. The country is itself in a debate about its own sense of identity," he said.


"The moral values that we pursue are ones that we need to know are clearly grounded, and it would be most helpful for the leader of the Church to be able to explain to people how the values we cherish stem from our Christian tradition."
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten said it would be the "thin end of the wedge" and called on the archbishop to resign.

He said: "I think he's shown he is totally unfit for the role he undertakes. He's not fit to be Archbishop of Canterbury, he doesn't seem to know what his own business is, and he's not fit to sit in the House of Lords. I think he should go."

'Hysterical misrepresentations'
However, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said it was grateful for the archbishop's "thoughtful intervention".
The organisation added that it was saddened by the "hysterical misrepresentations" of his speech, which would only "drive a wedge between British people".

Muhammed Abdul Bari, Secretary-General of the MCB, said: "The archbishop is not advocating implementation of the Islamic penal system in Britain.
"His recommendation is confined to the civil system of Sharia law, and only in accordance with English law and agreeable to established notions of human rights."
Bishop Lowe said the archbishop had been "ridiculed" and "lampooned" by some people.
"We have probably one of the greatest and the brightest Archbishops of Canterbury we have had for many a long day," he said.
Catherine Heseltine, from the Muslim Public Affairs Committee, said some people might be getting the wrong end of the stick.
"I'm concerned this debate is getting out of control because people hear the word Sharia and instantly scary images of beheadings," she said.
"But this is not what British Muslims want and it's not what British Muslims are asking for in any way."
'British values'
She added: "Sharia in our everyday lives means things like certification of halal meat, in the same way as Jewish religious bodies will certify kosher meat. No-one's forced to eat it but it's a choice if consumers want to buy it."

Dr Williams told BBC Radio 4 on Thursday that he believed the adoption of some Sharia law in the UK seemed "unavoidable".
In an interview with BBC correspondent Christopher Landau, Dr Williams said Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
Gordon Brown's spokesman said the prime minister "believes that British laws should be based on British values", but that the archbishop was perfectly entitled to express his views.
Home Office Minister Tony McNulty said to fundamentally change the rule of law and adopt Sharia law would be "fundamentally wrong."
Shaista Gohir, a government advisor on Muslim women, said the majority of British Muslims did not want Sharia courts.

Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg said he did not agree with the archbishop him on the issue.
Under English law, people may devise their own way to settle a dispute in front of an agreed third party as long as both sides agree to the process.
Muslim Sharia courts and Orthodox Jewish courts which already exist in the UK come into this category.

Hi Daydreamer
This is a bit old news - any reason for re-posting it ?
Thanks and have a good day.

Cacik, those links on page 1 are fresh news about the issue. My link is not an alternative link to the same story but a media insight into how the thing finished.

Veeeeeeeeeery interesting conversation about the conflict of Islam and the West.
This is a link that involves the topic of religion, I'm sorry about it, I don't want to provoke a discussion about religion, just thought this is a very good conversation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Jbt0ktT8M