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Witches in Saudi Arabia?
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110.       adonis
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 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:54 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting adonis:

Quoting AEnigma III:


However, I would be very interested to learn his reasons for calling me this



because you said to me that I was representing these people who apply Sheria rules.



You misunderstood me Adonis. I was not talking about YOU personally, but all muslims who fail to speak out against these barbaric acts publically.

These people do no favours to Islam. Why are you fighting people who ask for fair human rights, instead of these extremists?



because Today's Islam is not civilized and becomes the toy of primitive and moron statesman. So, it's normal to face these kind of sorrowful events.

ISLAM SHOULD BE RENOVATED. IN ORDER TO RENOVATE, ALL THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES MUST ESTABLISH A NEW GENERATION TO REPRESENT THE REAL ISLAM...

111.       eddie
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 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:54 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Eddie...do you need to see Dr. Treatment? I think your oven is set too high.



Oh no....it's like cool water off my back...quack quack..

Thank you Texas....

I learned to swim in the ocean as an ex-Navy.....I didn't
sign up for the 'How to swim in Quicksand Cesspool Parties'.


I've done my part here....
I've some letters to write for Fawza...I suggest some of
you join me....

Ciao ...!

112.       AEnigma III
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 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:54 pm

Quoting adonis:

because Today's Islam is not civilized and becomes the toy of primitive and moron statesman. So, it's normal to face these kind of sorrowful events.



Then we are probably in agreement
Does that bother you

113.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:56 pm

Quoting adonis:



ISLAM SHOULD BE RENOVATED. IN ORDER TO RENOVATE, ALL THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES MUST ESTABLISH A NEW GENERATION TO REPRESENT THE REAL ISLAM...



Someone please call for Dr. Treatment....I think I agree with Adonis....It's getting dark...cold...zzzz

114.       adonis
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 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:59 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting adonis:

because Today's Islam is not civilized and becomes the toy of primitive and moron statesman. So, it's normal to face these kind of sorrowful events.



Then we are probably in agreement
Does that bother you



it doesn't bother me, because I'm disturbed with these type of uncivilized actions in Sheria ruled countries. please keep in mind that I'm SECULAR.

yes we are in agreement eventually...

115.       AEnigma III
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 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:00 am

Quoting adonis:

yes we are in agreement eventually...



See miracles do happen

116.       adonis
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 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:02 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting adonis:

yes we are in agreement eventually...



See miracles do happen



HALLELUJAH!!!

117.       femme_fatal
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 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:03 am

im just pasting the rest of the article


The most frequent victims are women , who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

What's the crime?
Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

In Falih's case, the judges who convicted her in April 2006 relied on a coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had 'bewitched' them, according to the group.

Falih retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and said that as an illiterate woman, she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint.

'The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations,' said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

There was no immediate comment on the statement from Saudi Arabia, where government offices are closed on Thursdays, the start of the Muslim weekend.

'Fawza Falih's case is an example of how the authorities failed to comply even with existing safeguards in the Saudi justice system,' he added.

The Saudi court cited an instance in which a man allegedly became impotent after being bewitched by Falih, the rights group said.

An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of 'public interest' and to 'protect the creed, souls and property of this country,' the group's statement said.

Forced divorce
Human Rights Watch's statement came a day after Yakin Erturk, the U.N. special investigator for violence against women, wrapped up a 10-day visit to Saudi Arabia during which she highlighted another controversial case that has attracted international criticism.

Ertuk met with Fatima and Mansour al-Timani, who were forcibly divorced by the wife's family on grounds she had married someone from a lesser tribe.

The couple learned of the divorce on Feb. 25, 2006, when police knocked on their door to serve Mansour the divorce papers.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Erturk said she met the wife and husband who were in a 'terrible state of mind' and that Saudi officials had promised her arrangements would be made for the couple's reunion, according to Saudi newspaper Arab News.

so is there any letter that we could sign under?
after we discussed the subject so long and active?

118.       AEnigma III
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 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:03 am

Quoting adonis:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting adonis:

yes we are in agreement eventually...



See miracles do happen



HALLELUJAH!!!



Hmmm so what to talk of now
Get any Valentines cards today?

119.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:04 am

CONGRATS ADONIS!! I knew you couldn't be all that bad!

120.       femme_fatal
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 15 Feb 2008 Fri 12:06 am

Quoting adonis:


ISLAM SHOULD BE RENOVATED. IN ORDER TO RENOVATE, ALL THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES MUST ESTABLISH A NEW GENERATION TO REPRESENT THE REAL ISLAM...


how come you can renovate or reform a thing that was established by a deity?

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