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Heaven or Hell?
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 06:26 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting ciko: i would follow religious rules if i believed god is so stupid that he asks people to obey some rules to get into heaven |
I love your answer ciko....I think I feel the same way. I don't think following rules are that important....I don't believe it is so black and white. Being a compassionate and tolerant to your fellow humans is first and foremost. Or course this doesn't mean you have to agree with everyone!! |
and also i am too lazy to obey all those rules as a muslim...grrrrrrr the list is neverending praying 5 times a day, to fast in ramadan, no lie, no gossip blah blah |
Yes, we have similar rules as a Catholic....I just do my best and hope it all turns out well!! 
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 06:31 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth:
Yes, we have similar rules as a Catholic....I just do my best and hope it all turns out well!! |
gosh, lis, dont avoid me, share with me
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 06:32 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting femme_fatal: could you precise the religious rules? |
rules like " do not get in a swimming pool with your handsom unless you are covered" |
didnt know this rule applies on you
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 07:15 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Personally, I would rather err on the side of humanity. (but I don't think that will necessarily put me in Hell) |
That was what i meant. There must always be another choice like c) none of the above
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 07:37 pm |
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As far as I remember you're an Agnostic Aenigma (AA ). Doesn't it mean that you do allow the thought that there might be something, it's just beyond our powers of reason to understand or know it? So, perhaps there is hell and heaven?
I, on the other hand, am an Atheist so I could have said that about people believing in hell and heaven being like children raised by the Stick and Carrot method :-S
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 07:40 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: As far as I remember you're an Agnostic Aenigma (AA ). Doesn't it mean that you do allow the thought that there might be something, it's just beyond our powers of reason to understand or know it? So, perhaps there is hell and heaven?
I, on the other hand, am an Atheist so I could have said that about people believing in hell and heaven being like children raised by the Stick and Carrot method :-S |
Sorry I added to my post before I read this, which kind of explains more fully. Bu arada....the more I learn about religions, the more I find myself on the way to atheism 
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 07:45 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: the more I learn about religions, the more I find myself on the way to atheism |
That's the only right way there is
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 07:54 pm |
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Just because you don't believe in EVERY rule of your religion does not mean that you leave the religion or stop believing in God. I have left room in my mind for HUMAN error in interpreting the concept of God, good, evil, heaven and hell. That doesn't mean that I question his/her exsistance. I worship in the manner I feel comfortable...the church I grew up in...that doesn't mean I believe in every single word.
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14 Feb 2008 Thu 08:04 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Elisabeth, being agnostic does not mean you stop believing in God - only religion. If you read my post again, you will understand. And YES SORRY - if you ignore rules of your religion, you are becoming agnostic |
Its not so black and white, AEnigma, as I am sure you know. There are concepts in the bible that are cruel and harsh...but for the most part, Christianity has grown and developed over time and most of us realize that these are stories and parables. The rules were created by man (MEN). I don't feel the need to confine my thoughts, feelings and beliefs to parameters of set of rules....but I am not agnostic. There is no doubt in my mind of God's exsistance nor is there any doubt that evil souls are tormented in the afterlife and vice versa. Am I misunderstanding the concept of being agnostic....I thought you just had trouble committing to Atheism because somewhere in your mind you fear going to hell.
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