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USA PRESIDENCY CANDIDATE. - McCain
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1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 05:31 am

McCain SPEECH

The next President of the United States?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/02/19/sot.mccain.columbus.entire.cnn

HIGHLIGHTS FROM McCain SPEECH:

Age factor: "I'm not the youngest candidate, but I'm the most experienced. "

Obama: "I'll make sure Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for
change that promises no more than a return to false promises and a tired
philosophy.. . America cannot risk the confused leadership of an inexperienced
candidate."

Radical Islamic Extremism: "The most important obligation of the next President is
to protect Americans from the threat posed by violent extremists who despise us,
our values, and modernity itself. They are moral monsters. But they are also a
disciplined, dedicated movement driven by an apocalyptic zeal that celebrates
murder... and are determined to acquire and use weapons of mass destruction against
us."
-----------------------------

FRIGHTENING MENTALITY...How do you think he will make sure that Obama is effectively stopped?...Still talking of weapons of mass destruction....Has he been medically (mentally) checked lately?

2.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 06:02 am

MCCAIN A CLOSET ZIONIST: A WAR MONGER, DESPICABLE MAN
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2974

3.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 06:04 am

http://www.ronpaulforum.com/showthread.php?t=302115

Spending by Clinton campaign worries supporters,INTERN. HERALD TRIBUNE

4.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 04:32 pm

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,536828,00.html

5.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:33 pm

I'm not well versed in the rules regarding how much candidates are allowed to spend on campaigns. I am assuming there is no limit. If this is the case, then I don't think it is a sensible idea. What about an alternative. eg

From donations received by a party, all candidates should be given the same amount . . . call it a campaign budget.Each party should allocate the same amounts to their candidates as each other. That way all parties/candidates are on a financial level playing field.

The way the budget is spent should be open to public scrutiny. This should help the public decide who uses their budget most effectively and will focus a candidate's mind on real issues rather than spin.

Once a presidential candidate has been chosen from each party then a further fixed amount campaign budget is allocated.

Air time should be given in equal amounts too.

Perhaps general collection boxes could be in use at all rallies and conventions during campaigns . . .all money to go to a charity fund. Charities can apply to the fund for money for special projects.

What appears to be a 'spin to win' attitude is such a waste of money and doesn't always create public confidence.


These are simply my thoughts.

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 02:42 am

Quoting peace train:

I'm not well versed in the rules regarding how much candidates are allowed to spend on campaigns. I am assuming there is no limit. If this is the case, then I don't think it is a sensible idea. What about an alternative. eg

From donations received by a party, all candidates should be given the same amount . . . call it a campaign budget.Each party should allocate the same amounts to their candidates as each other. That way all parties/candidates are on a financial level playing field.

The way the budget is spent should be open to public scrutiny. This should help the public decide who uses their budget most effectively and will focus a candidate's mind on real issues rather than spin.

Once a presidential candidate has been chosen from each party then a further fixed amount campaign budget is allocated.

Air time should be given in equal amounts too.

Perhaps general collection boxes could be in use at all rallies and conventions during campaigns . . .all money to go to a charity fund. Charities can apply to the fund for money for special projects.

What appears to be a 'spin to win' attitude is such a waste of money and doesn't always create public confidence.


These are simply my thoughts.



You have some good ideas peacetrain....the amount of money spent in US campaigns is obscene to say the lease. It's the public air waves they use that are leased to corporations who then sell them to candidates to inform the public of their policies....

IMHO they should all be given exactly the same amount of resources and go with it. That way money could be used on other things, like education, health care, poverty issues.
It's a big issue here in the USA...

7.       dizzyspinner
0 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 02:55 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting peace train:

I'm not well versed in the rules regarding how much candidates are allowed to spend on campaigns. I am assuming there is no limit. If this is the case, then I don't think it is a sensible idea. What about an alternative. eg

From donations received by a party, all candidates should be given the same amount . . . call it a campaign budget.Each party should allocate the same amounts to their candidates as each other. That way all parties/candidates are on a financial level playing field.

The way the budget is spent should be open to public scrutiny. This should help the public decide who uses their budget most effectively and will focus a candidate's mind on real issues rather than spin.

Once a presidential candidate has been chosen from each party then a further fixed amount campaign budget is allocated.

Air time should be given in equal amounts too.

Perhaps general collection boxes could be in use at all rallies and conventions during campaigns . . .all money to go to a charity fund. Charities can apply to the fund for money for special projects.

What appears to be a 'spin to win' attitude is such a waste of money and doesn't always create public confidence.


These are simply my thoughts.



You have some good ideas peacetrain....the amount of money spent in US campaigns is obscene to say the lease. It's the public air waves they use that are leased to corporations who then sell them to candidates to inform the public of their policies....

IMHO they should all be given exactly the same amount of resources and go with it. That way money could be used on other things, like education, health care, poverty issues.
It's a big issue here in the USA...



Such a waste of money. Is there a chance of a 'poor' man or woman making it to the White House?

8.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 03:05 pm

How can anybody vote for such a person?
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

9.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 03:25 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

How can anybody vote for such a person?
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg



Or you could have Obama..bomb bomb bomb Pakistan..take your pick.

10.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 04:19 pm

You mean there will be bombing both ways ,and you will have your picks on which country you'd like it to be bombed?!
How nice !

11.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 04:30 pm

Quoting CANLI:

You mean there will be bombing both ways ,and you will have your picks on which country you'd like it to be bombed?!
How nice !



You have missed the point, Canli..

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 05:56 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting CANLI:

You mean there will be bombing both ways ,and you will have your picks on which country you'd like it to be bombed?!
How nice !



You have missed the point, Canli..


I agree! Canli, you missed the point..
It is not called bombing..They call it bringing democracy to countries. lol

13.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 08:51 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting Roswitha:

How can anybody vote for such a person?
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg



Or you could have Obama..bomb bomb bomb Pakistan..take your pick.



A big difference is McCain made a joke of bombing another country, Obama did not.

Obama "suggested bombing Pakistan."

Obama said:

“There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

actual Obama statement

14.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 09:17 pm

Exactly Alameda....thanks for your posts.

It is very obvious that the American press wants a Democrat in the Presidency....and they will twist whatever words they can to villianize a Republican. I have not yet decided which way I will vote, however...it is the press who has made it so difficult to decide. It is a travesty that people are jumping on the Obama bandwagon just because he is screaming CHANGE!! I don't have a problem voting for him if he is the best candidate....but he has done little to REALLY prove that he is.

And just so everyone knows both Democratic candidates would like to move forward with the Armenian Genocide bill. If you think either of these candidates care about Armenians...I have a bridge to sell you.

It is so important for all Americans to really do their homework about these candidates and vote their conscience....not what the press is saying.

15.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 09:40 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Exactly Alameda....thanks for your posts.

It is very obvious that the American press wants a Democrat in the Presidency....and they will twist whatever words they can to villianize a Republican. I have not yet decided which way I will vote, however...it is the press who has made it so difficult to decide. It is a travesty that people are jumping on the Obama bandwagon just because he is screaming CHANGE!! I don't have a problem voting for him if he is the best candidate....but he has done little to REALLY prove that he is.

And just so everyone knows both Democratic candidates would like to move forward with the Armenian Genocide bill. If you think either of these candidates care about Armenians...I have a bridge to sell you.

It is so important for all Americans to really do their homework about these candidates and vote their conscience....not what the press is saying.



I completely agree Lis..for some reason the media has definately kept silent on Obama and his past..Did you happen to hear about our lovely radio talk guy Bill Cunningham, in Cincinnati. He made me so proud..and McCain spoiled it. Now I'm thinking Ralph Nader.

16.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 09:44 pm

I must have missed it....but I am so confused about who to vote for...all my favorites are gone and the Texas primaries are Tuesday! I guess I will get out the old dart board...and just hope for the best!

17.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 09:48 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


And just so everyone knows both Democratic candidates would like to move forward with the Armenian Genocide bill. If you think either of these candidates care about Armenians...I have a bridge to sell you.

It is so important for all Americans to really do their homework about these candidates and vote their conscience....not what the press is saying.



.....uuuummmmm Elisabeth, I can not say I'm really thrilled with any of the candidates, but out of what's available, I'd go for Obama. I don't pay much attention to the press, I look at their positions and choose the closest to my ideas. Do I want to be skinned, salted, boiled in oil....or do I want to be skinned....no salt....and boiled in water...

18.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 09:50 pm

I prefer being lightly toasted! But I think we are all in for the deep fry!!

19.       incişka
746 posts
 02 Mar 2008 Sun 02:57 am

well im not so knowledgable on the issue but i just wanted to speak my mind In english literature class, the lecturer told us about the effects of Cain and Able brothers on English culture. For Cain murdered his brother, it was thought that all the bad ppl, the murderes the monsters ( ) originate from Cain.. And his name is McCain...

20.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 12:57 am

CLINTON UNDER FIRE
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_kennedy/2008/03/clinton_under_fire.html

21.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:46 am

Quoting Roswitha:

CLINTON UNDER FIRE
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_kennedy/2008/03/clinton_under_fire.html


Deja vu. You already posted this Ros....on the Obama thread.

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 03:01 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Roswitha:

CLINTON UNDER FIRE
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_kennedy/2008/03/clinton_under_fire.html


Deja vu. You already posted this Ros....on the Obama thread.


lol lol lol lol lol

23.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 04:13 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

I must have missed it....but I am so confused about who to vote for...all my favorites are gone and the Texas primaries are Tuesday! I guess I will get out the old dart board...and just hope for the best!



I think that all 3 candidates left will be much better at crossing party lines to do the right thing. McCain certainly has and he has a long history of doing it. I know who I will be voting for but any of the 3 are a much better step back into the World Community for the US.

24.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 10:35 pm

How the West could be won

How could the Republicans boast about their liberal values and their record in government when public funds are currently being used to fill the black hole created by US banks? Most Americans are in sour mood, as rising energy prices reduce their purchasing power, already affected by the credit crunch and the wage freeze.

 

 

So the Republicans have decided to change the subject and talk about patriotism, authenticity and attachment to “traditional values”. Faced with Barack Obama’s life story and the prospect of a historic breakthrough, they came up with their own stories: Sarah Palin, mother of five, governor of Alaska, wife of a champion snow-machine racer; and John McCain, American hero, who bombed Vietnam and spent five years in captivity there. And a new slogan, “Country first”. (Does that mean the Democrats put country last?)

Four years ago, despite a poor economic and diplomatic performance (a recession and the disastrous war in Iraq), President Bush won a second term stressing his religious faith and playing on fears of terrorism, abortion and homosexual marriage. And he could always rely on the abiding – and frequently justified – public resentment of the intellectual, artistic and technocratic elite who generally support the Democrats.

This year, McCain may be acting the gentleman but his supporters on the National Review added an old spice to the Republican recipe which, they hope, has lost none of its sting: “After college, Obama has an affluent white girlfriend who loves and wants to marry him. She brings him to visit her family, who warmly accepts him. Obama is attached to the girl and respects the family’s deep cultural heritage, but he eventually dumps her because she is not black. He feels that if he marries her he will ultimately be assimilated into a foreign white culture, a fate that is unacceptable to him” (1). Such a ploy may work, even at a time of economic meltdown. Speaking about Obama at the Democratic convention in Denver in August, the AFL-CIO secretary-treasurer confessed to delegates from Michigan: “A lot of white voters… and quite frankly a lot of union voters believe he’s the wrong race”.

The senator for Illinois is said to be too cold, too intellectual, too foreign (and too popular with foreigners), too leftwing, too inexperienced, too black. Asked by a journalist why he isn’t further ahead in the polls given the unpopularity of Bush and his party, Obama responded: “The Republicans don’t govern very well but sure know how to campaign”. ( He seems to have decided not to complain but fight back. The financial crisis offers a good line of attack: McCain openly supports deregulation and just a short while ago the Republicans advocated that federal pension schemes should be privatised and quoted on the stock exchange.

The Democratic response is more tactical, more carefully targeted. The presidential election is being won state by state. Many, including some key states – California, New York, Illinois, Texas, etc – are already in one camp or the other. But the Republican West seems to be wavering. That is where Obama has chosen to fight.

It will not be an easy ride. Driving from Kansas to Colorado, you see an array of hoardings such as “Abortion stops a beating heart” or “Accept Jesus Christ as your saviour and you shall be saved, or regret it forever”. Kansas is of course famous for religious fundamentalists campaigning against Darwin being taught in schools – but you can argue that Kansas isn’t yet the true West. When you reach Bozeman, Montana, however, a baby on a blue background is still exhorting drivers to “Take my hand, not my life”.

 http://mondediplo.com/2008/10/01howthewest

 

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