Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Turkish Poetry and Literature

Turkish Poetry and Literature

Add reply to this discussion
Moderators: libralady, sonunda
EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL
(351 Messages in 36 pages - View all)
<<  ... 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 [24] 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 ...  >>
230.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 01:27 am

Nooo I know! I didnt mean it like that! I just meant to tell you that the significance of the quotes shows his danger to humanity if you ask me



Quoting catwoman:

I didn't compare Wilders to Hitler!!! I didn't compare anybody to Hitler, I just like the quotes!!! They are so true and used everywhere. I actually thought that statements like "west hates islam" is a bunch of bologne... a big lie that's repeated so often that even westerners begin to believe it...

231.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 01:34 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Nooo I know! I didnt mean it like that! I just meant to tell you that the significance of the quotes shows his danger to humanity if you ask me


Is he the guy who made the new movie about Koran?

232.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 01:38 am

Quoting catwoman:

Is he the guy who made the new movie about Koran?



Is making, yes. It has not been broadcasted yet and people speculate whether it is all real or not, but I think there will be a film and soon too!

233.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 01:57 am

DK and Catwoman: I found this link, is this the movie?
The Dutch government fears the film could spark protests like those triggered by the Danish cartoons, in which at least 50 were killed worldwide, and harm Dutch business interests.

Wilders' right-wing party has nine of the 150 seats in the Dutch parliament, and has gained support in recent opinion polls. He has warned of a "tsunami of Islamisation" in a country which is home to almost a million Muslims.

This month, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance said Muslims in the Netherlands faced mounting violence and discrimination.

Dutch Muslims have said they want to open mosques on the day Fitna is screened to demonstrate tolerance and diffuse tension.



http://roguejew.wordpress.com/2008/02/27/head-choppers-ball-dutch-movie-about-the-koran-nearly-finished/

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2775592720080227?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

234.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 04:48 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

How can you tell me you (general) open for discussion if your government doesnt back you up?



Where is the discussion dear ?!

You didnt discuss anything with us,you didnt debat,you didnt find out about us,you just insulted us!
Denmark already done it by that cartoon,and here goes your politician too,even yours is more formal tho,after all he is a politician!

You 'general' have insulted our believes,have insulted us,and when we complained about it,you said freedom.
Ok,its our freedom too to choose how to deal with whom insulted us !
You didnt think that we would be insulted and we be ok with it did you ?!
As i said before the base of any kind of relationship is respect,even between countries too.
And you didnt respect us
There is much difference between the way you 'west' look at religion and the way we 'east' look at religion
Our religion consider big part in our lives,where yours not same ,not to many people 'ok Lisa?'
We value our prophet,and all prophets,we dont joke,or talk sarcastic regarding them...ect
Different in so many ways actually

Making a movie about Qur'an ??!!!!
OMG,you really dont have respect for anything at ALL,NOTHİNG ?!

Can you count for me please how many movies Muslim made about Christianity ,or ANY religion??!!!!
You are mad because my government didnt allow Dutch movie nor Danish movie in the festival?
And we shouldnt be MAD because you are İNSULTİNG even our Holly book ?!
Are you serious?!
As i said my dear sometimes you cant turn the other cheek,and its an eye for an eye
No,we wont insult any Holly book,or any religion,because they were sent from ALLAH as well,so they have our fully respect
But as for me personally,i would do what ever i can...
Since that danish cartoon,many people here dont buy any daish products,and their product were spoiled at supermarkets and so
We welcome them in our country as individuals,we deal with them personally for who they are.
But buy from them,watch their movies,..ect..
Nope
Who doesnt want to know me,i dont want to know him as well !
And,i wont give a penny from my money to a person who insulted me,and think its his own freedom to do it,so,SORRY i wont pay him for that ,its my freedom too!
Maybe that is not much,wont affect anything,but at least i have the satisfaction,that im not dealing with who dont respect me !
A,B,C any acquaintance,that you smile to that person and say Hello
But instead you said ''what a barbaric Muslims! '' you've called it freedom of speech then you surprised why we are offended?!
İ dont believe it !
You feel mad D_K ?İ feel both mad and disappointed AGAİN !

235.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 04:52 am

Quoting catwoman:

I didn't compare Wilders to Hitler!!! I didn't compare anybody to Hitler, I just like the quotes!!! They are so true and used everywhere. I actually thought that statements like "west hates islam" is a bunch of bologne... a big lie that's repeated so often that even westerners begin to believe it...



Yes cat,we hallucinate about it !
We made that cartoon not Denmark,and we are making the Dutch movie too,and it will be released with in a week ,we made them but we like to lable them in the name of Western countries !!!!

Have you any idea how sad such things make us ?!!!!

236.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 05:10 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

such a weak arguments.



''called for the Koran to be banned and likened it to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf''
Wilders
That is NOT what you can call it such such a weak argument !
Coming from democratically parliamentarian elected by you,that means MUCH im afraid !

237.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 05:47 am

Quoting CANLI:

Yes cat,we hallucinate about it !
We made that cartoon not Denmark,and we are making the Dutch movie too,and it will be released with in a week ,we made them but we like to lable them in the name of Western countries !!!!

Have you any idea how sad such things make us ?!!!!


Yes, Canli, I'm sure these things make you sad, but if you come to live in europe, nobody would discriminate you because you're muslim. In the same way, when you live in a western country, you have to respect how they understand freedom. When people come to your country, they have to respect your rules. There are millions of cartoons about christianity, yet christians didn't burn any embassies or flags.

238.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:39 am

Ok, so what I gather is Islam is such a beautiful religion, with equal rights to everyone regardless of sex. Everybody's free to make their own choices, religion that doesn't allow killing people for having different believes contrary to Christianity which is responsible for Crusades (regardless of the fact that Crusades lasted till 16th century with their peak in 13th and that the Church condemned them).

Muslims are simply misunderstood, it's not real Muslims who organise terrorist attacks, they are just a tiny fraction of fundamentalists not representative of the whole religious community. The West has absolutely no Muslim communities, those who are there are suffering from constant persecutions, there isn't a single mosque and nowhere can they practise their religion. All West hates Muslims because of the propaganda in tv calling those responsible for 9/11 and London attacks terrorists. Biased media dares to call people skinning their captives terrorists.

How barbaric is the Western media in comparison to propaganda-free Muslim countries. Only there are women free to do whatever they want. They do want to be dependant on men, at least they have no problems getting married unlike poor sexually abused women selling their bodies cheap in the West. They absolutely trust their parents so no choice their parents make is bad for them. Of course they can reject a candidate they don't like like I'm sure it often happens because all Muslim women marry of love. Because their fiancé cannot see them, bodily, animal-like desire is avoided. Thanks to that a woman is not a sexual object but a person. Of course, being a person she may make mistakes, then her husband has the right to punish her with his hand (if I remember correctly). [Just a digression here - how many homes for battered women are there in the East? Or how many homes for single mothers?]. She may even go to work - now that's progress - of course, if her husband lets her to. She has so many other duties, all those kids and housework. Oh, right - she was made to breed so the first chance coming, she should have as many children as her husband wants to. He is the smarter part of the tandem after all. etc etc...

So, the liberal and just Muslim countries don't ban a whole country from an international event basing on the actions of one person. But the evil and corrupt West countries banished all Muslims from for the actions of a group that killed thousands of innocent people and also ban them from any international events.

You're right Canli. West is bad and very unjust to Muslims. Unlike Muslims to the West.

239.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:39 am

I will not even consider to reply to Canlıs post. As always, YOU just only see how you get attacked and insulted. There is no discussing with you. And no, I did not discuss or debate. I just stated some facts and wondered what you thought about it, as a genuine wonder. Because I have read some of your posts, and wondered what you had to say about this.

If Kuran says that you have to pray 5 times, and you make a film about praying 5 times. İs it an insult? NO, you would be happy.
But if Kuran says something less happy, and we make a film about it, suddenly were insulting you. Sorry, I almost forgot that your book is all about interpretation. Its just a pity that that interpretation has caused for such a big split among many many muslim communities (the Sunni branch alone has 4 lawschools with different rules!) that it has become to hard for me to understand what is Islam.

Anyway, I wont bother replying to your post. You attacked me based on a film made by a man I hate. So its really funny. I??? attacked you? Because the man I HATE makes a film about your holy book?

If its that holy it dont need protection honey!

240.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:42 am

Hey! Good timing Deli_kizin And ideas just as good

(351 Messages in 36 pages - View all)
<<  ... 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 [24] 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 ...  >>
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Etmeyi vs etmek
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Görülmez vs görünmiyor
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, very well explained!
Içeri and içeriye
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Present continous tense
HaydiDeer: Got it, thank you!
Hic vs herhangi, degil vs yok
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Rize Artvin Airport Transfer - Rize Tours
rizetours: Dear Guest; In order to make your Black Sea trip more enjoyable, our c...
What does \"kabul ettiğini\" mean?
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Kimse vs biri (anyone)
HaydiDeer: Thank you!
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most liked