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EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 01:56 pm |
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Quoting alameda:
Well Daydreamer, that is really a matter of opinion. May I point out that to trivialize the fact that Witchcraft persecutions ended 60 years ago ignores the fact that is still in LIVING memory. |
So, in the same manner, you may want to argue that people from Germany are bad as they are all Nazists. The memory of WW II is still alive in memory, but nobody sane would pass judgements on contemporary Germany basing on what happened over 60 years ago.
Quoting alameda:
...and some justified that as the result blacks suffering from the curse of Ham and thus claimed they deserved to be treated badly....sigh.. |
You missed the point of my joke! It's easy to criticise others ignoring the bad things going on in your own backyard. Has anyone said here that Western countries are absolutely perfect? No crimes? No poverty? I, among others, have repeatedly stated that West is far from ideal. But I do think that people are freer here than in Muslim states.
Quote: Choose a religion of none, I am not offering an opinion on your spiritual choice, however I don't feel it's appropriate to belittle and demean others choices. I have not seen any Muslims here proselytizing, but I have seen a lot of anti Islamic rhetoric. |
I have never intended to belittle or demean any religion. I think they do it themselves by exploiting and abusing their followers. But I do agree - everyone has the right to choose their own religion. Just as it is my right to comment on certain social issues that derive from religious norms. If somebody wishes to become a Satanist, it is his/her choice. But if his religion permits to kill somebody, it is my right or even responsibility to express my disagreement. If Catholics decide that religion should be taught at schools - protesting against it has nothing to do with demeaning this religion, it is simply a personal opinion. If Muslims treat women in a manner I disagree with, stating it does not make me belittle Islam, does it?
Quote: It was I who made that post based on an analysis of posts here. Calling my comment a whine is an attempt to trivialize and dismiss an observation. |
I apologise if you felt insulted by the word "whine." But I do feel your observation was an exaggeration. It is those you call atheists, free-thinkers who are constantly insulted in this site. Muslims are treated with respect. I haven't noticed any of "you are stupid because I know better" attitude that some of this "oppressed" group of Muslims and nationalists present.
Quote: I think we are both actually in agreement, I don't want religion or forced on me, and you don't want it forced on you. One's spiritual choices are deeply personal and must be freely made, if they are to be valid. I posted the links so as to enable anyone who actually wants those type of discussions to find an appropriate outlet.
What I do object to is any type religious bullying. The world has had enough of that. |
Exactly, we agree about this one in 100%
Quote: Looking at your profile and your relationship with Ireland (with it's Catholic/Protestant issues) you must be aware of these issues.
Religious Bullying
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I'm not Irish, I'm a Polish immigrant to Ireland. I have no idea what it has been here like before. But I assure you, no religious bullying or hate is present. Catholics, Protestants and other religions co-exist peacefully.
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 07:24 pm |
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I still can't get over the whole kitten on his lap thing! 
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 08:50 pm |
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I thought you would like this Handsome,quite appropriate!!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicolas_Tassaert-Die_eifers%C3%BCchtige_Katze.jpg
Enjoy!
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 08:57 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I thought you would like this Handsome,quite appropriate!!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicolas_Tassaert-Die_eifers%C3%BCchtige_Katze.jpg
Enjoy! |
haha..it is funny..
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 08:59 pm |
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I thought so and rather ironic.I got it from a little bird,she knows who she is!
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 08:59 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I thought you would like this Handsome,quite appropriate!!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicolas_Tassaert-Die_eifers%C3%BCchtige_Katze.jpg
Enjoy! |
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 09:00 pm |
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I know how rude although from the look on the womans face she isnt really bothered either way lol
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 09:15 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: for the handsome
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Aww, how sweet... 
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 09:17 pm |
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Teaschip, who is cuddling with him?
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 09:29 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Teaschip, who is cuddling with him? |
I am wondering that too!!
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10 Mar 2008 Mon 09:30 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Teaschip, who is cuddling with him? |
I plead the fifth on this one...
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