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Defend Bülent Ersoy
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1.       LCT
25 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:46 am

I think we should defend Bülent Ersoy.
What she said was right.

'I'm a not a mother,nor can I ever have children,but if could I would not send my son to war'

She has been threatened wıth 3 years imprisonment for saying this.
This is not a crime.
Has the right to free speech eroded so much that people cannot speak out against war?




2.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:47 am

I back her fully!

3.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 11:51 am

It is outrageous that a personal opinion can result in imprisonment. My support for her.

4.       azade
1606 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 12:00 pm



I don't really knwo what to say, it's beyond ridiculous if they actually send her to prison.....

Heck I've said much worse things

5.       janissary
0 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 02:23 pm

if we are here now, if we have a mother language, if we have a country called "TURKIYE" or if we have freedom after all those attacts to Anatolia everytime in history (in gallipolli, in independence war, fight against terrorism,,and others), we owe all of these to faithful mothers. Turkish mothers send their sons to army for sacrificing in the sake of homeland. in advance it was like this and now it s. everything can change in the world, but not culture. I dont want other ppl understand us, it s useless. they can not understand what does it mean if a mother make henna to his son's hand when she sends him to army. maybe Bülent Ersoy is very far from turkish culture, that s why she talked like this. but she must not forget that if she has the name "bülent" and speaking turkish, she owes these to mothers who send their unique and the only son to army. so, I do not defend her. she has no right to talk instead of turkish mothers.

6.       LCT
25 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 02:29 pm

Quoting janissary:

she has no right to talk instead of turkish mothers.



Well if she doesn't then you've just excluded yourself from the argument, unless of course you are a mother who has sent her son to the army, which I guess you're not.

7.       janissary
0 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 02:43 pm

Quoting LCT:

Quoting janissary:

she has no right to talk instead of turkish mothers.



Well if she doesn't then you've just excluded yourself from the argument, unless of course you are a mother who has sent her son to the army, which I guess you're not.



and you are not a turkish mother... turkey has a very important Geo-politic position between Asia and Europe. that's why there are many bad plans playing on turkey. if there is still "Turkey", it s because we have turkish mothers.

8.       LCT
25 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 02:55 pm

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

Pastor Martin Niemöller


You don't have to be a woman to speak out against sexism
You don't have to be gay to speak out against homophobia
You don't have to be black to speak out against racism

You don't have to be Turkish/a mother/a soldier..etc...
to speak out against the war
We all have the right to stand up and speak.
That's the point.

9.       janissary
0 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 03:28 pm

I address the Turkish Army whose record of victory started at the down of the history of mankind and which has carried the light of civilization in its victorious progress.

I have no doubt that just as in the most critical and difficult times you saved the country from oppressiom, tragedy and enemy invasion, so today, in the furuitful era of the Republic equipped with all the modern weapons and means of military science you will do your duty with the same faith.

I and our great nation know that you are always prepared to carry out your duty defending the honour of our country and our civilisation against danger, from inside or out.

M. KEMAL ATATURK.

We Turks are a people who, throughout our history, have been the very embodiment of freedom and independence.
M. KEMAL ATATURK.

Our nation has succeeded owing to the unshakable unity it has shown in its actions and endeavours.
M. KEMAL ATATURK.

I dont defend war, nobody does. if we have to defend our land one day, we will never look behind. Im saying these, coz I will go to army as all turkish youth oneday. who knows it will be my turn when Im in the army.

10.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 03:33 pm

Janissary, so you think that whatever your country does should be accepted by everyone and no personal opinions can be voiced if they disagree with the country's policy?

Do you think that people who say they are against war should be imprisoned?

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