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The lack of powerful liberal Muslim voices
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130.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Mar 2008 Mon 06:29 pm

Quoting alameda:


There are links there to other sites that could answer your questions. I suggest asking your questions where you would get input from perhaps some more equipped to answer your questions, as you are getting into technical areas that Canli has told you she is not prepared to answer, and this is not a religious debate site.


Well..
I wanted to debate this from its basics Alameda.
I think everybody should know the basics before believing into something..
And as far as the links are concerned, I am not clicking on them.
Because I dont have question marks in my mind regarding what we are talking here.

131.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Mar 2008 Mon 11:14 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

lol lol
Thanks for accepting it canli.
Basically we agreed that what is written in Qu'ran (at least some part of it) is not applicable in today's world..

That was what I was saying since the beginning of this thread:
'Islam/Qu'ran needs reforming according to today's world'

Nice to be agreeing on that



HANDSOMMMM!!!!!!!
İs this what you were arguing with me about ALL from the start ?!!!
And i made researches,quoting verses from Qur'an ,TYPİNG ?!!!!
As a punishment for you....next time,we'll have even LONGER debat lol

What WE agreed about doesnt call reforming İslam,that means applying İslam rules using modern technics

Reforming İslam rules,means changing Qur'an's verses,and no one can do this except ALLAH
Which non of us is 'Astağfarullah'

But of course i agree with the above..which is applying İslam rules with modern technics.

Anyway,i will be waiting for you in the next debat inşallah,and remember...LONGER

132.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Mar 2008 Mon 11:27 pm

Quoting alameda:



There are links there to other sites that could answer your questions. I suggest asking your questions where you would get input from perhaps some more equipped to answer your questions, as you are getting into technical areas that Canli has told you she is not prepared to answer, and this is not a religious debate site.


Actually,i was going to suggest to go and ask İmam too,but thanks to alameda,maybe the links,would make it easier
As i said,im not İmam to answer technical things,when i needed to know them,i read about them,but of cours i cant reprovide them im not imam nor hafız,but thanks to our debat,i guess i will be memorizing more sura or even ayat than i do
Btw handsom,nice debating with you .

133.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 01:50 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting alameda:


There are links there to other sites that could answer your questions. I suggest asking your questions where you would get input from perhaps some more equipped to answer your questions, as you are getting into technical areas that Canli has told you she is not prepared to answer, and this is not a religious debate site.


Well..
I wanted to debate this from its basics Alameda.
I think everybody should know the basics before believing into something..
And as far as the links are concerned, I am not clicking on them.
Because I dont have question marks in my mind regarding what we are talking here.



Here, I will make it easier....

"Turkey strives for 21st century form of Islam

· Move to rewrite sharia law basis and redefine Qur'an
· Fusion of Muslim beliefs and western principles "

Islamic reform

134.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 10:31 am

I recieved a link from a dearest friend !!!

"How to Debate and Frustrate Infidels"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zMsU7FC8KU

ps..I am not insinuating anything..

135.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 11:02 am

Quoting thehandsom:

I recieved a link from a dearest friend !!!

'How to Debate and Frustrate Infidels'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zMsU7FC8KU

ps..I am not insinuating anything..



Can't stop laughing. It reminds me of so many debates I participated in or read.

136.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 06:52 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I recieved a link from a dearest friend !!!

"How to Debate and Frustrate Infidels"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zMsU7FC8KU

ps..I am not insinuating anything..



Me thinks thou doth protest too much. What are you afraid of? If you believe, maybe you'll have to give up some "fun" things?

And just what friends you have handsom, it seems your objective here was to have a eristic debate, instead of a discussion....or did your friend distract you? It appears the objective is to win the debate, which is a prejudicial method, in as much as the point is to win an argument, rather than learning others viewpoints.

This method of wining such a debate is to win at whatever cost, truth be damned! You can make fun of your opponent to belittle them and thus rob them of their credibility. You will get a cheap laugh. It is a diversionary tactic. You don't even have to be truthful.

I don't think Canli or I were aware of the fact there was no dialog here, we thought there was a potential for a real idea and thought exchange.

137.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 10:21 pm

Quoting alameda:


Me thinks thou doth protest too much. What are you afraid of? If you believe, maybe you'll have to give up some "fun" things?

And just what friends you have handsom, it seems your objective here was to have a eristic debate, instead of a discussion....or did your friend distract you? It appears the objective is to win the debate, which is a prejudicial method, in as much as the point is to win an argument, rather than learning others viewpoints.

This method of wining such a debate is to win at whatever cost, truth be damned! You can make fun of your opponent to belittle them and thus rob them of their credibility. You will get a cheap laugh. It is a diversionary tactic. You don't even have to be truthful.

I don't think Canli or I were aware of the fact there was no dialog here, we thought there was a potential for a real idea and thought exchange.


Alameda,

That link was simply supposed to be a joke.
I already mentioned in the end that there is no insinuation in my post.
I found the link funny and I just wanted to share it..That was all..I did not think it was offensive..(It is not to me. I could have shared this link with my other muslim friends and I am sure we would have laughed at it)

I think the discussion in this thread is already over. I did not want to restart it.

And there WAS a dialog in this thread and I am glad we came this far without getting it blocked.

btw..I am not afraid of anything..

138.       CANLI
5084 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 10:32 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I recieved a link from a dearest friend !!!

"How to Debate and Frustrate Infidels"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zMsU7FC8KU

ps..I am not insinuating anything..



İf you werent insinuating anything,you wouldnt have posted this link !
İ've spent time and effort debating here,and seeking studies and checking ayat from Qur'an,and all was just a joke to you !
Passing your time .
İm sorry i've spent my time on such joke.

Btw handsom,which of us is the Muslim and which is the kafir ?!

139.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 10:36 pm

Quoting CANLI:



İf you werent insinuating anything,you wouldnt have posted this link !
İ've spent time and effort debating here,and seeking studies and checking ayat from Qur'an,and all was just a joke to you !
Passing your time .
İm sorry i've spent my time on such joke.

Btw handsom,which of us is the Muslim and which is the kafir ?!


Come on Canli..
I am sure you know 'it is just a joke and I was not insinuating anything'.
And I am sure you very well know that I was not joking during the debate..

140.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 11:07 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

.....And there WAS a dialog in this thread and I am glad we came this far without getting it blocked.

btw..I am not afraid of anything..



Yes, now you can go back to playing with your "kitten"

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