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19 Mar 2008 Wed 09:00 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: who did I villify? |
Oh, I think Girleegirl is talking about your statements that this site is anti-Turkish and anti-Islam, but never showed any proof... |
I didn't think it was necessary to back track but if a few of you do not see my point, I will outline three instances. I do this from memory, I don't even need to search for the details.
thread 1, the afgan islam thread that is still going on started by aenigma.
thread 2, the muslim in the british police thread
thread 3, the muslim girl in Canada that was banned from a soccer tournament because she covers.
These 3 threads all share a common theme. They were posted to show the "backward image" of islam.
They were not there to educate, inform or provoke thought. Why do some people feel the need to find articles on the web that portray islam and islamic people in a bad way, and feel the need to post it here? Turkey is a 99.9% muslim country. If we were in the home of a turkish family, would it be kind to bring up this kind of discussion? Or would it be considered rude? This is my point.
I think a good rule of thumb is to not start a thread that you would feel uncomfortable discussing at the home of a traditional turkish family. Treat this site like someone's home where we are guests. And that means show respect.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:37 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: These 3 threads all share a common theme. They were posted to show the "backward image" of islam.
They were not there to educate, inform or provoke thought. Why do some people feel the need to find articles on the web that portray islam and islamic people in a bad way, and feel the need to post it here? Turkey is a 99.9% muslim country. If we were in the home of a turkish family, would it be kind to bring up this kind of discussion? Or would it be considered rude? This is my point. |
No, Keith, I disagree. This is only your personal impression that such posts are made to provoke and portray islam in a bad way. They are simply news announcements that report FACTS, not anybody's personal opinions. If the facts say that Islam is an intolerant religion in certain instances, that's just what it is. If we have the right to post articles that portray Islam in a positive way, we also have the right to post articles that show it in a negative way, that is simply being objective!
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:39 pm |
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I didn't think it was necessary to back track but if a few of you do not see my point, I will outline three instances. I do this from memory, I don't even need to search for the details.
thread 1, the afgan islam thread that is still going on started by aenigma.
thread 2, the muslim in the british police thread
thread 3, the muslim girl in Canada that was banned from a soccer tournament because she covers.
These 3 threads all share a common theme. They were posted to show the "backward image" of islam.
They were not there to educate, inform or provoke thought. Why do some people feel the need to find articles on the web that portray islam and islamic people in a bad way, and feel the need to post it here? Turkey is a 99.9% muslim country. If we were in the home of a turkish family, would it be kind to bring up this kind of discussion? Or would it be considered rude? This is my point.
I think a good rule of thumb is to not start a thread that you would feel uncomfortable discussing at the home of a traditional turkish family. Treat this site like someone's home where we are guests. And that means show respect. |
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:43 pm |
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sorry my laptop has problem 
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:44 pm |
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This is the core of the issue. We agree that especially the Taliban terrorizing women in Afghan is wrong. There really isn't much to discuss. But, what is the purpose of the thread?
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:45 pm |
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Quoting elham: sorry my laptop have problem |
Maybe one fo the nice new mods will delete the repeating posts, and as for the laptop, if you live in a tower block dropping for a high floor will do the trick! 
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:46 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: This is the core of the issue. We agree that especially the Taliban terrorizing women in Afghan is wrong. There really isn't much to discuss. But, what is the purpose of the thread? |
The purpose of the thread is the same as the purpose of a positive news - information. This is not an islamic web site, therefore we will not censor only positive news about Islam, if Islam is an allowed topic.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:49 pm |
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Well..Actually..
sorry to everybody but this is becoming a comedy show here..
First of all, of course the question itself keith asked:
"Has Turkish Language Class become too anti islam and anti turkish?"
if you ask what the definition of anti-turkish or anti-islam, everybody will give different answer. Because, it is as good as me asking everybody that 'am I handsome or not'..
The second thing is the roundness of those words, because you dont have a proper definition of those entities.
You may think that when somebody says 'hey..there is a link here saying that mohammed got married to 9 years old child' is and insult to islam..
But Is it really insulting islam? is it true that 'that incident' happened? what is wrong with mentioning it?
and as a person who have strong beliefs and who feels offended, dont you have ENOUGH knowledge TO DEFEND mohammed?
Somebody gave a link, I remember, saying that 'Ataturk was a dictator'.
Is it anti Turkish? Is it really anti -turkish? well may be that person knows something historically which you dont know.
and dont you have ANY knowledge about ataturk to defend him?
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:50 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: This is the core of the issue. We agree that especially the Taliban terrorizing women in Afghan is wrong. There really isn't much to discuss. But, what is the purpose of the thread? |
The purpose of the thread is the same as the purpose of a positive news - information. This is not an islamic web site, therefore we will not censor only positive news about Islam, if Islam is an allowed topic. |
Sorry but can you two sort this out in private please.................................................... 
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:50 pm |
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It totally defeats the purpose of a forum if you can't discuss anything negative or controversial about Turkey, its culture or its religion. I talk openly about these topics with many of my Turkish friends and husband...and they don't get nearly as uppity as people on this site. People have been completely disrespectful and downright rude about my country and I have never complained. I have also been ridiculed for my religious convictions...but I have never complained about that either. My whole point is, offense is often taken where none is intended. I think many people think they want to discuss differences but really they want to convince other people that they are wrong.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 10:53 pm |
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I think we need Dr.Phil in TC to clear all our problems here 
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