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130.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Mar 2008 Wed 11:21 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting catwoman:

I think there was a misunderstanding of Keith's words. We have agreed that there will be no censoring as to what kind of news can be posted and discussed as long as the discussion does not contain insults and personal attacks and is not meant to either promote or to denigrate Islam.



Phew, we've got there! Well I have an early start tomorrow, so I am having an early night! Sweet Dreams all


Night night LL

131.       KeithL
1455 posts
 19 Mar 2008 Wed 11:22 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting xkirstyx:

Some people just like to provoke people to get reactions. They like to belittle what others have or are or believe in to make themselves feel better. There is a BIG difference between the people who are using the site and ALSO have discussions with different views regarding religion and politics etc. and the people who have come on with ONLY the intention to provoke with no genuine interest in Turkey at all. It's very chidish.



Quoting KeithL:

100% right Kirsty and those are the types of threads that will get locked in a heart beat...


I wonder what that means really....
I wonder how it will be proven that a post is 'JUST TO PROVOKE PEOPLE' and then get locked in a HEARTH BEAT?
I would like to see that really...



Hansome. I am only 1 mod. And I don't have any forbidden topics. I am only asking for people to be respectful. I cannot make it any clearer..

132.       elham
579 posts
 19 Mar 2008 Wed 11:55 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


Why is it insulting to you Elham?
What did I say? is it NOT TRUE?
IS YOUR BELIEF THAT WEAK.. dont you have any answers to that?


I do not know from where pring your misinformation ,
if you meant his wife Ayse, her age was 17 not 9 years as you said
handsom I am always ignore your provocative comments because i do not want to waste my time with you cause
you are ignorance in Islam and the prophet

it is only"Islamophobia"


133.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:00 am

Quoting elham:

I do not know from where pring your misinformation ,
if you meant his wife Ayse, her age was 17 not 9 years as you said
handsom I am always ignore your provocative comments because i do not want to waste my time with you cause
you are ignorance in Islam and the prophet

it is only"Islamophobia"


Elham, I am just wondering, if there are factual conflicts between what handsom says and what you know, why don't you explain that without anger and insults? (being called islamphobic and ignorant because you ask a question is not very tolerant or nice!)

134.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:10 am

Quoting vineyards:

Nevertheless, I believe criticism directed towards religions from those who are not essentially involved in that religion is nothing but a violation of personal freedoms of those people.


Well, I will take it as a personal opinion of Vineyard and I will critisise it:

The view above seems to me like 'convincing people not to express their views about religions' .
And to be honest it is a kind of repression..

I am still trying to understand why some believers think that 'the idea that criticism of a belief system is the same as a personal attack on the believers'
Well it is not..at least most of the time it is not the case..

Some people insist that they and their religion should be respected and, therefore, that attacks on religion are not a valid use of one's free speech rights.

However, each person deserves respect as a human being.
But their belief does not get that respect automatically..
The belief has to earn that respect.

I think what everybody should realise that any beliefs which are not true or valid will only be revealed through criticism.
What this means is that if people care about the truth, they should not be afraid of criticism.
if they are true then this will strengthen them; if they are wrong, then they will are free to follow new beliefs.

I think people who are offended about these critisisim should not forget that free speech protects them as well

135.       janissary
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:28 am

Quoting KeithL:


Has Turkish Language Class become too anti islam and anti turkish?



YES. Especially coz of some members who had problem with turkish ppl. their only common point with turkey is their partner, nothing else. I respect others who love turkey with their own experience...

sorry for long answer

136.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 02:14 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Look at what's happening here - some members were unhappy with what the site was like, a poll was introduced to investigate the feelings of TC members. Although the result was in favour of those who didn't mind what the site had looked like, decisions were made to improve the site. Yet, still the minority who expressed their discontent in the poll keep complaining about the poll not having been anonymous. Please, do realise that although you were in minority, changes are being introduced. I can't understand what is bugging you about that...



http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_28741
They dont vote,they just leave !

137.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 02:25 am

Quoting elham:

Quoting thehandsom:


Why is it insulting to you Elham?
What did I say? is it NOT TRUE?
IS YOUR BELIEF THAT WEAK.. dont you have any answers to that?


I do not know from where pring your misinformation ,
if you meant his wife Ayse, her age was 17 not 9 years as you said
handsom I am always ignore your provocative comments because i do not want to waste my time with you cause
you are ignorance in Islam and the prophet

it is only"Islamophobia"


Elham,
A bit of advice
Discussing İslam here is waste of time,wont achieve anything ''Understanding,tolerant..ect'',and also it was not intended to achieve anything right from the begining..!
So dont watse your time,you will end up being sad about it.

İslam was there ,and will be there same as it is,whether anyone like it or not
Remember ?! ALLAH protecting it
So,İslam is not good ?!
Ok,we are Muslims and we like it this way!
End of the story .
''Lakum Dinakum wa Liya Dini''
''You have your believes and i have mine''

Of course its up to you,but its just my advice,i've wasted my time before,and i know about it!

138.       christine
443 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 04:07 am

I have been on this site for over 3 years and have really noticed a different in some topics. Some that are brought up on a regular basis and i feel just started to get an arguementative reaction from people.Some people are anti turkish and anti islam, but also some of the turks are disrespectful of other people countries or beliefs.Please let have turkishclass back to what it use to been. A SITE FOR LEARNING TURKISH LANGAUGE AND CULTURE.

139.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 04:39 am

Quoting christine:

Please let have turkishclass back to what it use to been. A SITE FOR LEARNING TURKISH LANGAUGE AND CULTURE.


+1000000000

That's why I felt like topics unrelated to Turkey should be limited. We don't want to restrict people, but I feel like some of the topics that Roswitha and AlphaF are starting are out of place in the amount that they are/were posting them.

140.       elham
579 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 09:09 am

Quote:

Quoting CANLI:



Elham,
A bit of advice
Discussing İslam here is waste of time,wont achieve anything ''Understanding,tolerant..ect'',and also it was not intended to achieve anything right from the begining..!
So dont watse your time,you will end up being sad about it.

İslam was there ,and will be there same as it is,whether anyone like it or not
Remember ?! ALLAH protecting it
So,İslam is not good ?!
Ok,we are Muslims and we like it this way!
End of the story .
''Lakum Dinakum wa Liya Dini''
''You have your believes and i have mine''

Of course its up to you,but its just my advice,i've wasted my time before,and i know about it!


Dear Canli
I said that according to this verse :
"اذا خاطبهم الجاهلون قالوا سلاما"
thanks to your advice

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