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150.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 11:17 am

Quoting CANLI:



http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_28741
They dont vote,they just leave !



If you have a look at the nicks of the people who left, you'll see that they are not all those who claim this site is anti-Turkish or anti-Islam.

Quoting CANLI:


A bit of advice
Discussing İslam here is waste of time,wont achieve anything ''Understanding,tolerant..ect'',and also it was not intended to achieve anything right from the begining..!
So dont watse your time,you will end up being sad about it.



I can't agree with you here, as a matter of fact the discussion we had a while ago about women's rights in Islam really shed a lot of light on this problem for me. Before you told me how Islam feels about this issue, I was dead sure inequality is written there and people just follow it. You pointed out it was different and that women have a lot of rights which, unfortunately, are not always obeyed.

That's why I am thankful for this discussion as it was informative and very convincing. First of all, you're a Muslim (an educated one, I assume) then, you are a woman so I'm sure this issues are important to you. Finally, you live in a Muslim country so you know exactly what it is like to be a Muslim woman in a Muslim world and you know all kinds of social strata - those more liberal and those more restrictive.


You changed my opinion about this issue so I don't think it was a waste of your time.

151.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 11:39 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Lapinkulta, if you go through the forum archive, you'll see there are many threads criticising USA.



yes there were many discussion but it was effected or were directed by moderators.so it is not possible to belive in ppl are objective.

152.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 11:47 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


YESSSSS...NOT ONLY anti islam and anti turks..it is forbidden here to tell any bad things rehated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish...we have to discuss Turkey, Turkish, islam...I have been in TC about 3 years,its aims have changed so much recently...


Check previous posts about usa/bush/iraq/israel-palestine.
I dont think you have been following the forum very well..



I meant that these discussions were effected or were directed by moderators.so it is not possible to belive in ppl are objective...I follow up discussions which are related to Turkey or Turkish...Im not interested in other topics like complimenting other members,admins,moderators...

153.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:11 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:



I meant that these discussions were effected or were directed by moderators.so it is not possible to belive in ppl are objective...I follow up discussions which are related to Turkey or Turkish...Im not interested in other topics like complimenting other members,admins,moderators...



Go through the archive and tell me where it was moderated.

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_28051_-1

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_26908_-1 (from post 64 on)

President was called an idiod, USA murderers and nobody deleted it Is that moderation?

There are many more threads like this, check out AlphaF's archive. If you have any proof anti-USA opinions were moderated, please give examples

154.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:13 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


YESSSSS...NOT ONLY anti islam and anti turks..it is forbidden here to tell any bad things rehated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish...we have to discuss Turkey, Turkish, islam...I have been in TC about 3 years,its aims have changed so much recently...


Check previous posts about usa/bush/iraq/israel-palestine.
I dont think you have been following the forum very well..



I meant that these discussions were effected or were directed by moderators.so it is not possible to belive in ppl are objective...I follow up discussions which are related to Turkey or Turkish...Im not interested in other topics like complimenting other members,admins,moderators...


I am a little puzzled here!!
you say that 'you follow discussions related to Turkey or Turkish' and then you say 'it is forbidden here to tell any bad things reheated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish'
Again,
check the previous posts, you will see many harsh criticisms of usa/israel/eu etc..
I dont think they are forbidden subjects..

155.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 01:26 pm

TO: Admin and ALL CLASSMATES

I have received the following warning - in my private mail - from one of the leading "free thinkers" of this group.

I have requested Admin to confirm whether or not she is authorised to issue such a patronising and biased warning.

If it turns out that she is, I will no longer post any further messages and will ask my account to be deleted. If she is not however, I would expect her to stop her involvement as a moderator.

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catwoman 13 Mar 2008 Thu 07:51 am

Hi AlphaF,
I would like to let you know that we decided to not have any topics about Israel or American politics in the forums any more. So please don't start those threads as they will be deleted.

Thank you.


This post is my evidence how they start a new topic or change secretly...

156.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 01:40 pm

lol again - do try keeping up-to-date

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_28727_2

157.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 04:41 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:



I can't agree with you here, as a matter of fact the discussion we had a while ago about women's rights in Islam really shed a lot of light on this problem for me. Before you told me how Islam feels about this issue, I was dead sure inequality is written there and people just follow it. You pointed out it was different and that women have a lot of rights which, unfortunately, are not always obeyed.

That's why I am thankful for this discussion as it was informative and very convincing. First of all, you're a Muslim (an educated one, I assume) then, you are a woman so I'm sure this issues are important to you. Finally, you live in a Muslim country so you know exactly what it is like to be a Muslim woman in a Muslim world and you know all kinds of social strata - those more liberal and those more restrictive.


You changed my opinion about this issue so I don't think it was a waste of your time.



İ enjoyed this discussion also,it was one of the rare times we have a calm discussion about religion,no matter what the outcome of it was,i mean if we agree with each other or not,but i have enjoyed it also,and i wouldnt call it waste of time also,as i also understood what were you thinking about those issues.
Of course till the point i was accused of being either kafir,or manipulative Muslim !
But,any how im glad it was some useful to other people,and wished we could have more like it without the accusation part of course.

158.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 05:01 pm

Quoting Cacık:



Let us start a fresh, stop this thread, wipe the slate clean, shake hands and start again.

What do you think ? I am all for it and from what I gather many peopl are.


+10000000
Count me in .

159.       janissary
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 07:51 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting Cacık:



Let us start a fresh, stop this thread, wipe the slate clean, shake hands and start again.

What do you think ? I am all for it and from what I gather many peopl are.


+10000000
Count me in .



start what? hehe Im sure what will u start again

Lapin, my dear brother, if they delete you, I will really laugh alot after you

160.       libralady
5152 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:59 pm

If arguing was a religion it would win hands down! Please everyone........................ Libra = the sign of balance, equilibrium and harmony, so lets have some my dear friends!

Tomorrow is a new day, and for us ugly Westerners it is Easter when we gorge ourselve stupid on Hot Cross Buns and easter eggs and if anyone can tell me why, then I will buy them dinner! lol

Kisses to everyone and I said I could not tell you what sort of mood I am in!

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