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90.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:44 am

Quoting karpusqueen:

There is absolutely no problem in posting links in order to inform others. It can save a great deal of time in a debate because it negates the need to back up a point 2 or 3 posts later. I don't think people who post links are patronizing those involved in the debate and in fact other members may find the links useful/informative. Lighten up everyone and stop using this issue as a stick to beat someone with. I'm sure the site advises that links be posted when appropriate anyway.



Quoting teaschip1:

I don't believe anyone was being critical about posting links..I firmly stated that I found what people write here more useful than googleing. I don't have a problem with links when it's necessary, however just because a link is posted doesn't necessarily mean it's factual. You must consider the resources.

So why don't you take your own advice and lighten up yourself Peace Train....



Quoting KeithL:

Maybe I have not read enough threads, but from what I see, whenever Alemeda posts something, the same people find a reason to be critical of her and her post.
I don't think Peacetrain posting a positive statement about Alemeda deserves the kind of response that you posted Tea. From my chair, very rude....


Keith, I cannot find ANYTHING rude in teaship's reply to peace train. I have no idea what it is you think was rude in her post... I think she was extremely clear and polite in what she said. I find it quite unfair to point her out as the example of why some discussions go out of hand, especially when me and many other people see nothing wrong here.

I haven't responded to karpusqueen's post because it just looked to me that she completely didn't get why we complain about some of alameda's links. She's talking about apples, while we talk about oranges. And that's how most of our conversations with them are anyway.

I think I am one of the people you are referring to who comment on alameda's posts. Actually, really, that is just too bad for alameda. I happen to disagree with her a lot and I have a problem with the things she says and the way she says them. I try to tell her what bothers me, but she almost universally doesn't listen and just keeps on talking about her own thing. I am not being unfair to her, I am only saying what I think.
If you are pointing out a group of people "attacking" alameda every time she posts something, I think it's equally important to say that there is a group of people who continuously attack me, girleegirl or handsom whenever we post something. I'm not crying about it though because it just looks like certain people happen to disagree on everything, and that's also the case with me and alameda. So please, try to understand that nobody is being intentionally mean here.

91.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:47 am

Quoting karpusqueen:

I don't see that he is continuously slamming you teas. He is only answering all the questions about a comment he made about you. It simply looks worse than it really is

"Whimpering crap" tut tut shame on you


I would be surprised if you did see!

92.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:48 am

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting teaschip1:

Why post your opinion alameda if you have little interest in this topic? Doesn't make sense, unless you wanted to get a reaction. But on second thought you stated you didn't care to participate in debating. lol

For the record, I have taken away more from this site from other classmates regarding various religions & politics than reading a link or googleing.



This is where it starts. This thread had been moving along without Teaschip's involvement. Her first post into this thread had nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Her only intent was to jump in and say something negative about Alameda. This is rude and childish behavior.


This is only your opinion Keith and I believe teaship has as much right to post here as everybody else. And personally, I find her posts to be very much in line with the topic and very interesting. And actually, I find your post to be rude.

93.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:52 am

Quoting catwoman:


Keith, I cannot find ANYTHING rude in teaship's reply to peace train. I have no idea what it is you think was rude in her post... I think she was extremely clear and polite in what she said. I find it quite unfair to point her out as the example of why some discussions go out of hand, especially when me and many other people see nothing wrong here.

I haven't responded to karpusqueen's post because it just looked to me that she completely didn't get why we complain about some of alameda's links. She's talking about apples, while we talk about oranges. And that's how most of our conversations with them are anyway.

I think I am one of the people you are referring to who comment on alameda's posts. Actually, really, that is just too bad for alameda. I happen to disagree with her a lot and I have a problem with the things she says and the way she says them. I try to tell her what bothers me, but she almost universally doesn't listen and just keeps on talking about her own thing. I am not being unfair to her, I am only saying what I think.
If you are pointing out a group of people "attacking" alameda every time she posts something, I think it's equally important to say that there is a group of people who continuously attack me, girleegirl or handsom whenever we post something. I'm not crying about it though because it just looks like certain people happen to disagree on everything, and that's also the case with me and alameda. So please, try to understand that nobody is being intentionally mean here.


Nicely stated kitty.

94.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:52 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting thehandsom:

I dont think this thread should be locked at all..



Well İ didnt (yet )


Actually this thread should stay to show us how BAD a moderator can be.

It should stay as an example to show that how a moderator cant not earn respect without being just.

It should stay to show all of us how a moderator's personal grudges blind the impartiality of a mod.

And in the end,
This thread should stay as a supreme example of why some people should NOT be a mod.

95.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 04:09 am

Even moderators can disagree. I have discussed this thread with other moderators, so I know there are at least 3 of us agree that the comments by Tea were taken as disrespectful.

Power trip by the way? Hardly. I have never even considered deleting or closing a thread. My comments were as much as a user than as a mod. But so you know, I would be just as happy at TC to not be a moderator as I am being one. Catwoman knows that at any moment if she feels I am not an appropriate moderator, I will step aside, no questions asked.

Coming in, I know who my detractors are (I can count them on on one hand), so the hostility does not surprise me, much less bother me.

Find me another thread where a 3rd party jumps in and is only there to insult and not add anything to the discussion and I will tell them as well it is inappropriate.

96.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 05:58 am

Quoting KeithL:

Even moderators can disagree. I have discussed this thread with other moderators, so I know there are at least 3 of us agree that the comments by Tea were taken as disrespectful.


Absolutely true. The rules that moderators need to follow are very clear and their job is to enforce forum rules, no more no less. They can express their own opinions as users and they can disagree with each other.
However, I do disagree that teaschip's comment was disrespectful, I see none of it whatsoever in her post.

Quoting KeithL:

Power trip by the way? Hardly. I have never even considered deleting or closing a thread. My comments were as much as a user than as a mod. But so you know, I would be just as happy at TC to not be a moderator as I am being one. Catwoman knows that at any moment if she feels I am not an appropriate moderator, I will step aside, no questions asked.


I do agree that Keith has been very fair as a moderator at least until now. I don't see that he has ever abused his power.

Quoting KeithL:

Coming in, I know who my detractors are (I can count them on on one hand), so the hostility does not surprise me, much less bother me.

Find me another thread where a 3rd party jumps in and is only there to insult and not add anything to the discussion and I will tell them as well it is inappropriate.


I really don't see any hostility there, people are simply expressing their views and I think they sense as much hostility towards them as you sense towards yourself . I do think we should try to get be beyond that...
At the same time I do believe that Keith is just being honest about what he believes, although I wholeheartedly disagree with him and even find his response to teaschip to be rude and hurtful.

97.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:55 pm

let me ask this to the members of whats left of "the gang"

If you are free to be critical of Alameda, why do you cry when I am critical of you??

98.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:13 pm

Quoting KeithL:

let me ask this to the members of whats left of "the gang"

If you are free to be critical of Alameda, why do you cry when I am critical of you??


You are so predictable!!! Uhh who had the closest time to 2:55 PM in the TC betting pool on when keith to jump to alameda's defense? Do we have a winner???

I think it is hilarious how people refer to "the gang" as though it were something real!!! It was a joke...it was a group who could lighten up and have some fun!

99.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:17 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

You are so predictable!!! Uhh who had the closest time to 2:55 PM in the TC betting pool on when keith to jump to alameda's defense? Do we have a winner???

I think it is hilarious how people refer to "the gang" as though it were something real!!! It was a joke...it was a group who could lighten up and have some fun!


hahaha

100.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:04 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting girleegirl:

You are so predictable!!! Uhh who had the closest time to 2:55 PM in the TC betting pool on when keith to jump to alameda's defense? Do we have a winner???

I think it is hilarious how people refer to "the gang" as though it were something real!!! It was a joke...it was a group who could lighten up and have some fun!


hahaha



GG and handsom you owe me 20 dollars...please send it to me in USD..THANKS!!

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