Quoting geniuda:

And I protest TRIPLE the ones who DOUBLE protest

Quoting Elisabeth:

Are you protesting me???

Quoting Elisabeth:

I second this motion, Libralady!!

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!!

Quoting elibrody:

OMG this site is so boring on the last few days is like all the fun people is gone and I'm totally invisible haha funniest thing ever but very boring
All you need is love
peace & Burger King

Quoting karpusqueen:

Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!! u must be warn by TC moderator coz of your pics...

Quoting elibrody:

OMG this site is so boring on the last few days is like all the fun people is gone and I'm totally invisible haha funniest thing ever but very boring
All you need is love
peace & Burger King

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting karpusqueen: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!! u must be warn by TC moderator coz of your pics... Lap you are quite right but Elizabeth's pics are from the "insult era" of TC . We have detente now and I am sure it will be her pleasure to remove them, before the Admins do so

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting karpusqueen: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!! u must be warn by TC moderator coz of your pics... Lap you are quite right but Elizabeth's pics are from the "insult era" of TC . We have detente now and I am sure it will be her pleasure to remove them, before the Admins do so

Quoting caliptrix:

Yes, and also those who are in these photos (if they really exist) have their own "freedom" of choosing such dress. But why I can't catch such people even though I live in a very conservative and religious family and environment?

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting libralady:

I am at a loss here, is everyone joking? :-S cos I see a couple of pictures of scenary what is offensive? Please tell me you are all joking and put me out of my misery.......................

Quoting thehandsom:

I am personally appealing Elizabeth not to remove those pictures. (If admins remove them it will be a completely different ball game and it will be a HUGE mistake)
If you feel that they are offensive to your belief, then, you should be considering 'what you really believe' and ask your self 'how strong your belief' is..

Quoting caliptrix:

I am not against to the choices of people's dressings. If someone wants to dress like that, no problem for me. Or she might dress nothing and I wouldn't say anything bad but that would be some sexual, so not proper. This is what I wanted to say as "freedom of dressing choice".

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On the other hand, both types: nude or dressed like these photos, are not real. At least not in practical Turkish life. And if you can look at them some more open heart, you can see that they are fake sure. There are two points about this:
1. No one orders a dressing type like this (in Islam or in Turkey)
2. No one can force people to dress like that

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For the first point, I mean; probably people think that Islam orders such a thing. It is not meaningful for me. Other Islamic countries may have such ideas, but there is no order in the life rules of Islam. At least not so strongly and strictly. For that reason, these photos are not much real and meaningful.
Those photos are real and shows what extend an idea can go and take the freedom away for women..

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For the second point, I mean; People think, some of the extremists or radical islamists will force girls to dress like this. How come, can you tell this really? I am clearly sure that everyone (not only non-religious and also normal religious muslims or try to be religious) is disturbed even because of this idea. For that reason, these photos are not real and meaningful.

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But that is clear: There are some kind of people who are trying to make everyone fear of Islamic ideas or everthing related to Islam. But they do this so hidden that they are looking like realist as if they have some pieces of belief.

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As a result: I don't agree with whatever Elisabeth wants to say by these photos, but I am not sayin that she has to remove or these type photos must be removed. I know what I have to know. But if we put such photos in anywhere even though there is no life like that (they are not from a real life), it means we are trying to make people afraid of somethings. Maybe from Islam, maybe from some applications or decisions of a political group.

To remove or ban something will not change anything, but these photos says: "Fear from them! They will make you like this!" And it is hurting many religious people, even though they respect everyone's religioun.

Quoting caliptrix:

But if we put such photos in anywhere even though there is no life like that (they are not from a real life), it means we are trying to make people afraid of somethings. Maybe from Islam, maybe from some applications or decisions of a political group.

To remove or ban something will not change anything, but these photos says: "Fear from them! They will make you like this!" And it is hurting many religious people, even though they respect everyone's religioun.

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

I am personally appealing Elizabeth not to remove those pictures. (If admins remove them it will be a completely different ball game and it will be a HUGE mistake)
If you feel that they are offensive to your belief, then, you should be considering 'what you really believe' and ask your self 'how strong your belief' is..

Quoting KeithL:

Someone had asked the legitimacy of those pictures. I actually ran across them on BBC. Both pictures are from Baghdad, post Saddam time-frame.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting thehandsom: I am personally appealing Elizabeth not to remove those pictures. (If admins remove them it will be a completely different ball game and it will be a HUGE mistake) If you feel that they are offensive to your belief, then, you should be considering 'what you really believe' and ask your self 'how strong your belief' is.. Im just laughing u...dont talk about my belief or dont recommend me anything.it is none of your business..Im talking to elisabeth about that topic.. I dont know what you believe really and I dont think I care much. But I will reword it for you If you feel that 'Elizabeth's pictures' are offensive to your belief, then, you DO NOT be considering 'what you really believe' and DO NOT ask your self 'how strong your belief' is.. Because it is SOOOOO OBVIOUS HOW STRONG it is.. Happy now?

Quoting girleegirl:

Lapin, you have been here an awfully long time and recently you have come alive with your posts. My question is, why haven’t I seen anything positive coming from you? If you are so offended by what you see, why don’t you post something in counter-balance instead of just continuing to complain about old news?

Quoting Lapinkulta:

thes pics dont describe TC, or Turkey so that it is not good to see these here in TC as if they are from TR.

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

if u look at my pics u will see a Turkish..it doesnt describe TC and TR but give some opinion about Turkish youth.at leats Im not hiding my face etc...

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I have been really good member in advance and TC were great and I have been enjoying here much but this site has changed so much and ppl started to attack,insult ppl and topics are politics, religion, etc...I fed up with ppl who are posting bad things and wrong opinin about Tr.it made so me angry tehn I have started to anwswer these instead of helping TC learners..regards

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

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Quoting girleegirl:

I just love how everyone who insults others always claims it to be in self-defense!!

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting karpusqueen: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!! u must be warn by TC moderator coz of your pics... Lap you are quite right but Elizabeth's pics are from the "insult era" of TC . We have detente now and I am sure it will be her pleasure to remove them, before the Admins do so

Quoting catwoman:

Caliptrix, I see your point, but I think you are exaggerating a little.

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I assure you that as a non-Muslim, such thoughts are definitely NOT what I think when I see these pictures. Every person who has half a brain will know that in every ideology/religion there are extremes and that's what this picture shows.

Quoting caliptrix: