Quoting Lapinkulta:

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Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting karpusqueen: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: I second this motion, Libralady!! Motions? Motions? who told you...................... Along with anti-Muslim, anti-Turk monitors....motion detectors have been installed on TC!! u must be warn by TC moderator coz of your pics... Lap you are quite right but Elizabeth's pics are from the "insult era" of TC . We have detente now and I am sure it will be her pleasure to remove them, before the Admins do so

Quoting caliptrix:

Yes, and also those who are in these photos (if they really exist) have their own "freedom" of choosing such dress. But why I can't catch such people even though I live in a very conservative and religious family and environment?

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Quoting libralady:

I am at a loss here, is everyone joking? :-S cos I see a couple of pictures of scenary what is offensive? Please tell me you are all joking and put me out of my misery.......................

Quoting thehandsom:

I am personally appealing Elizabeth not to remove those pictures. (If admins remove them it will be a completely different ball game and it will be a HUGE mistake)
If you feel that they are offensive to your belief, then, you should be considering 'what you really believe' and ask your self 'how strong your belief' is..

Quoting caliptrix:

I am not against to the choices of people's dressings. If someone wants to dress like that, no problem for me. Or she might dress nothing and I wouldn't say anything bad but that would be some sexual, so not proper. This is what I wanted to say as "freedom of dressing choice".

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On the other hand, both types: nude or dressed like these photos, are not real. At least not in practical Turkish life. And if you can look at them some more open heart, you can see that they are fake sure. There are two points about this:
1. No one orders a dressing type like this (in Islam or in Turkey)
2. No one can force people to dress like that

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For the first point, I mean; probably people think that Islam orders such a thing. It is not meaningful for me. Other Islamic countries may have such ideas, but there is no order in the life rules of Islam. At least not so strongly and strictly. For that reason, these photos are not much real and meaningful.
Those photos are real and shows what extend an idea can go and take the freedom away for women..

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For the second point, I mean; People think, some of the extremists or radical islamists will force girls to dress like this. How come, can you tell this really? I am clearly sure that everyone (not only non-religious and also normal religious muslims or try to be religious) is disturbed even because of this idea. For that reason, these photos are not real and meaningful.

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But that is clear: There are some kind of people who are trying to make everyone fear of Islamic ideas or everthing related to Islam. But they do this so hidden that they are looking like realist as if they have some pieces of belief.

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As a result: I don't agree with whatever Elisabeth wants to say by these photos, but I am not sayin that she has to remove or these type photos must be removed. I know what I have to know. But if we put such photos in anywhere even though there is no life like that (they are not from a real life), it means we are trying to make people afraid of somethings. Maybe from Islam, maybe from some applications or decisions of a political group.

To remove or ban something will not change anything, but these photos says: "Fear from them! They will make you like this!" And it is hurting many religious people, even though they respect everyone's religioun.

Quoting caliptrix:

But if we put such photos in anywhere even though there is no life like that (they are not from a real life), it means we are trying to make people afraid of somethings. Maybe from Islam, maybe from some applications or decisions of a political group.

To remove or ban something will not change anything, but these photos says: "Fear from them! They will make you like this!" And it is hurting many religious people, even though they respect everyone's religioun.

Quoting thehandsom: