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10.       janissary
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 22 Mar 2008 Sat 12:12 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting si++:

Quoting janissary:

I wonder, if Admin or other moderators can read the private messages of TC members, sent each other??? I think it is possible and I have doubts about it nowadays....


I am not sure about moderators but for the "admin" yes he can.
He has designed the database and everything is at his hands.


Yes, only the main admin can, if you wants to/needs to, by looking at the database. Moderators and other admins (Deli kizin and me) cannot. Admin does NOT look at anybody's private messages though, he has never done that.



you are really an interesting person. why u always answer instead of other ppl. how can u be sure that admin has never done that??? I know admn can look at private messages. I know how a web site works. Admn can see and change some details of memebers. and even he can see our passwords. it s possible. dont be child and stop answer instead of others...

11.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:01 pm

Do you want to imply something or do you have some evidence? You know people are innocent until they are proven guilty.

We are not into this web site running business as much as you are. You seem to know every curious detail about it.

As moderators, we are trying to give you a service on our own time. We do our best to be as impartial, objective and reasonable as possible. It is due to this excellent understanding between users and moderators that we are beginning to have fewer problems.

I would expect everyone to contribute to this by giving their support. For example, if you have a problem with another member or if you want to see some improvements please send us PM's. We will then see what we can do about them.

This is a public forum but a private entity at the same time. There are certain matters which are only at the discretion of the site owner. Needless to say that the site is run on admin's own money.

Some years ago there was a game site called sanane.com. The guy who owned the site committed himself to the development of the service and maintained it as a free service. After a while the users began complaining; they complained of this and that all the time. Then a moment came when the level of criticism was unbearable. So, the admin decided to close down the site. Ever since that time people are looking for other free services of the same caliber to no avail.

I know that the site admins conceived this site as a service to help promote Turkish language education. Let us keep this in mind before coming up with speculations not supported by evidence.

12.       janissary
0 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:08 pm

I just asked yes or no. you dont need to explain somethings.

13.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:16 pm

Quoting vineyards:



Actually,i have been told same too ,and further than that i cant provide any evidence.

But i dont get what do you mean by that sanane.com story,is it stop complaining or else ... ?

İ like to believe that admin care about his members more than that site owner was !

14.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:31 pm

Quoting janissary:

I just asked yes or no. you dont need to explain somethings.



Oh Sire, I forgot, you ask the questions and I answer. Can I call my lawyer?

15.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:33 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting vineyards:



Actually,i have been told same too ,and further than that i cant provide any evidence.

But i dont get what do you mean by that sanane.com story,is it stop complaining or else ... ?

İ like to believe that admin care about his members more than that site owner was !



No, please continue complaining forever.

16.       janissary
0 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:39 pm

Quoting vineyards:

Quoting janissary:

I just asked yes or no. you dont need to explain somethings.



Oh Sire, I forgot, you ask the questions and I answer. Can I call my lawyer?



you write one page long but I cant see any answer. if you can not tell ur thoughts freely, u can call ur lawyer.

17.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:45 pm

As you might have seen,im not with complaining for the sake of complaining
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_28755
But also i dont appreciate a threat tone !

18.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:48 pm

Janissary, do you have a tangible accusation to be begin with? What is the question; you say all you are asking for is yes or no. You should know by now that this question has already been answered and the answer is "no".

I made that "one page" explanation to draw your attention to the absurdity of spreading speculations about what admin does and what he does not. I also emphasized that this is a service given to users and they should support it by being constructive.

Certainly, you are not supporting anything by spreading these speculations. Have you heard of something, did you notice something abnormal, do you have any clues suggesting anything in that vein?

Would you appreciate if I asked you whether you are trying to hack this site? Don't worry I wouldn't ask you such a question without having proper evidence.

19.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:55 pm

Checked out your link Canli. There is nothing there that implies PM's are read.

How come you think my tone is threatening? What kind of threat do you think I am capable of? I don't have the right to close down the site, I just see some similarities between the sanane.com and this site from user complaints point of view. Since the day I became a moderator, no messages were deleted (except my own) and no warnings issued.

I am not even a moderator of this forum; I am writing as a user.

20.       Cacık
296 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 02:56 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting vineyards:



Actually,i have been told same too ,and further than that i cant provide any evidence.

But i dont get what do you mean by that sanane.com story,is it stop complaining or else ... ?

İ like to believe that admin care about his members more than that site owner was !



I thought the reason for the story was very obvious, another good site was closed down by the owner because he/she had enough of complaints. The point is, everyone here seems to have agreed to stop arguing after the last weeks debates and progress. The point of the story is, if we don't do the same, you (plural) could not blame the owner for saying to him/herself, oh enough is enough, and pressing close down site button !

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