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How do Turkish people think about this 'movie'?
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1.       Saskia1970
70 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 08:42 pm

In Holland - and many muslim countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Indonesia - there were protests about the movie of an MP called Wilders, a right wing politician. His thoughts about islam are very biased and he said many horrible things (in my view). Yesterday, after months of protest and discussion worldwide, this 'movie' was launched on a website called Liveleak.com

What I'm curious about is, if this movie was mentioned in Turkish news (newspapers, radio, television) and what Turkish people think about it.

Want to see it for yourself?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

2.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 09:14 pm

I wanted to post this movie too, but as an administrator I decided not to post it, before I give people the feeling I support this film.

I expected much more from it, after all the commotion we have had in the media. However, it was just a compilation of images we have all seen before. Wilders could have reached so many people with this video, so many people could make a good sollution. But he didn't. The result isnt that bad, its not disrespectful or insulting as I thought it would be. Yet it is bad party-propaganda that we really dont need. It is one-sided, ill-informed and misleading. All who agree/support this film, believe the fundamentalistic Islam, to be the true Islam. I would not want to agree with a fundementalist..

3.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 09:33 pm

Sounds interesting..I will have to view it for myself.

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 10:14 pm

Just some additional info:

The Danish cartoonist has started a case against Wilders, for using his cartoon out of context. His cartoon was against Islamic extremists, not the Islam itself, so it was used wrongly and without permission.

The picture that is shown to be Muhammad Bouyeri, the murdered of film maker Theo Van Gogh, is wrong. It is a picture of the Dutch rapper Salah Edin. I wonder how Wilders could make such a mistake :-S It just means he sees every Maroccan as a potential Islamic murderer..

At last, in the end it shows pictures of blooded children. Today I read in the train-newspaper that these are not pictures of violence, as they seem to be, but they are a celebration among Muslims where the kids are deliberatly covered in blood or red liquids..

5.       Chantal
587 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 11:04 pm

I was really laughing out loud when I heard these things on TV, about him plagiarising and using the wrong pic!

And indeed, this morning it also said that people were thinking about changing 'islam' into 'ku klux klan', coz then it would be exactly the same against christianity..

I'm glad Al-jazeera made clear this film does not represent the Dutch view of Islam at all, and that our prime minister actually said he didn't agree that this film was made public..

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 11:17 pm

I think it is fine that it was published, especially since it is not a 'wrong' film. Only the last few seconds are his own thoughts, the other ones, eventhough monitored with certain purposes, are statements from other people, not from Wilders.

But yes, this is definitely NOT the viewpoint of the Dutch population! I think this film is rather a laugh, considering what attention Wilders gave to it. Besides that, it is just a miserable compilation to divide the Dutch people.

7.       Saskia1970
70 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 11:19 pm

Well, for those interested: you cannot see the movie anymore on the Liveleak link from the first post. The movie has been taken of the website after serious threats towards staff of Liveleak. It's sad - whatever you think of this film - that this happened.

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 11:23 pm

Quoting Saskia1970:

It's sad - whatever you think of this film - that this happened.



+1



I downloaded it from rapidshare, but it is the Dutch version, so not of much use for other members here.

9.       janissary
0 posts
 29 Mar 2008 Sat 12:20 am

ohh poor you u cant offend us now((

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Mar 2008 Sat 12:31 am

Quoting janissary:

ohh poor you u cant offend us now((




I guess you didn't read what we said at all or you deliberatly misunderstood what has been said. Anyway, if you feel offended, you should complain to the imams ın the film who said those things. Not to the guy who published it. However, I am still not behind that film (if only he had left out the last minute with his own thoughts.. they were )

I find it harsh of you to say that WE want to offend YOU. In case I misunderstood your words wrong, my apologies.

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