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Saudi Arabia: Woman killed for chatting on Facebook
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1.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:23 pm

A young Saudi Arabian woman was murdered by her father for chatting on the social network site Facebook, it has emerged.

The unnamed woman from Riyadh was beaten and shot after she was discovered in the middle of an online conversation with a man, the al-Arabiya website reported.

The case was reported on a Saudi Arabian news site as an example of the "strife" the social networking site is causing in the Islamic nation.

(Thankful of "International Campaign against honor killing" for the report.)

2.       MrX67
2540 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:30 pm

thats really easy to understand worries of western people about the mistakes of some stupid people who don't aware of real meaning of İslam and islamic culture..

3.       KeithL
1455 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:34 pm

Quoting MrX67:

thats really easy to understand worries of western people about the mistakes of some stupid people who don't aware of real meaning of İslam and islamic culture..


+1

4.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:34 pm

This is beyond sad.

5.       MrX67
2540 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:39 pm

but i believe that to be watchman of peace millions times better then to be voice of hate and grudge...

6.       geniuda
1070 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:39 pm

Quoting MrX67:

thats really easy to understand worries of western people about the mistakes of some stupid people who don't aware of real meaning of İslam and islamic culture..


this is true and very sad.. i wonder how the mother feels and if the father doesnt feel any guilt after doing such monstrous act

7.       MrX67
2540 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:41 pm

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting MrX67:

thats really easy to understand worries of western people about the mistakes of some stupid people who don't aware of real meaning of İslam and islamic culture..


this is true and very sad.. i wonder how the mother feels and if the father doesnt feel any guilt after doing such monstrous act

he can't be a father,he can only be a monster and 2 legged animal...

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:41 pm

Quoting MrX67:

but i believe that to be watchman of peace millions times better then to be voice of hate and grudge...


well, of course! nobody is voicing hate here, maybe except for hate of monstrous behavior..!

9.       MrX67
2540 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:43 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

but i believe that to be watchman of peace millions times better then to be voice of hate and grudge...


well, of course! nobody is voicing hate here, maybe except for hate of monstrous behavior..!

then i'm always agre with you if ur aim wasn't blaming a whole soicety or culture?

10.       teaschip
3870 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:44 pm

Quoting MrX67:

thats really easy to understand worries of western people about the mistakes of some stupid people who don't aware of real meaning of İslam and islamic culture..



This maybe true, but it doesn't make any more light of the situation. That's the problem with the radical islamist. But let's not forget it is a reflection on their religion.

It's just like these preists who have sex with children, it is STILL a reflection on the catholic faith. Does it mean that's what catholics believe in? No, but people relate one thing to another. It's just the way it is.

What should have been done by the news network is to denounce such behavior. I wonder what will happen to the father as a recourse for his actions.

11.       Saskia1970
70 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:51 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I wonder what will happen to the father as a recourse for his actions.



Community service as punishment? (Sorry, I have no confidence in the legal system of S.A.)

12.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:56 pm

Quoting Saskia1970:

Quoting teaschip1:

I wonder what will happen to the father as a recourse for his actions.



Community service as punishment? (Sorry, I have no confidence in the legal system of S.A.)


In a just society shouldn't the father go to prison?

13.       Saskia1970
70 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:57 pm

Of course he should go to prison. Many, many years please. I was (trying to be) sarcastic, you didn't notice?

14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 07:59 pm

Quoting Saskia1970:

Of course he should go to prison. Many, many years please. I was (trying to be) sarcastic, you didn't notice?


Ok... Yes... it should be a life sentence, or something close to it.

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 08:00 pm

Saudi man beats daughter to death for using Facebook

16.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 08:00 pm

Quoting Saskia1970:

Quoting teaschip1:

I wonder what will happen to the father as a recourse for his actions.



Community service as punishment? (Sorry, I have no trust in the legal system of S.A.)



This man is a deranged killer and unfortunately there are some people who feel he is justified in his behavior (for whatever reason). Until this behavior is seen as murder and not honor, this will continue.

17.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 08:09 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

This man is a deranged killer and unfortunately there are some people who feel he is justified in his behavior (for whatever reason). Until this behavior is seen as murder and not honor, this will continue.


Yes..... this is the truth

18.       incişka
746 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 10:42 pm

I'm sure if it weren't a girl but a boy, the father would not do the same but only some scorning or maybe nothing at all... It is as if the thing they call "honour" were just for women! And maybe the so called father himself is doing even more than chatting! Still whatever he does, he keeps his honour cos he is a MAN!! How nice!!!!
This might be the case for this father but in general these kind of men think this way...

19.       geniuda
1070 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 10:46 pm

Quoting incişka:

I'm sure if it weren't a girl but a boy, the father would not do the same but only some scorning or maybe nothing at all... It is as if the thing they call "honour" were just for women! And maybe the so called father himself is doing even more than chatting! Still whatever he does, he keeps his honour cos he is a MAN!! How nice!!!!
This might be the case for this father but in general these kind of men think this way...


+1000000000....

20.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 10:54 pm

Quoting incişka:

I'm sure if it weren't a girl but a boy, the father would not do the same but only some scorning or maybe nothing at all... It is as if the thing they call "honour" were just for women! And maybe the so called father himself is doing even more than chatting! Still whatever he does, he keeps his honour cos he is a MAN!! How nice!!!!
This might be the case for this father but in general these kind of men think this way...


Yes, I am sure of this. Very well put Inciska!

21.       janissary
0 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 11:32 pm

Quoting catwoman:

A young Saudi Arabian woman was murdered by her father for chatting on the social network site Facebook, it has emerged.

The unnamed woman from Riyadh was beaten and shot after she was discovered in the middle of an online conversation with a man, the al-Arabiya website reported.

The case was reported on a Saudi Arabian news site as an example of the "strife" the social networking site is causing in the Islamic nation.

(Thankful of "International Campaign against honor killing" for the report.)



this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 11:36 pm

Quoting janissary:

this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism


Read the forum rules before posting! According to the wishes of most people here, we modified the forum rules to allow discussions about everything.
If you have specific complaints about moderators/admins, you can send a PM to Admin with an explanation.

23.       janissary
0 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 11:47 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting janissary:

this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism


Read the forum rules before posting! According to the wishes of most people here, we modified the forum rules to allow discussions about everything.
If you have specific complaints about moderators/admins, you can send a PM to Admin with an explanation.




hehe. I know who are these "most of the ppl".when did u modified rules. before this post???

3 members wanted and it was accepted now I can understand why ppl left this site. because u post unrelated things with "turkishclass web site". people come to this site for learninf turkish and turkey, not for daily news.

24.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 12:30 am

I think it was majority of people, not 3..

25.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 01:30 am

Quoting janissary:

3 members wanted and it was accepted now I can understand why ppl left this site. because u post unrelated things with "turkishclass web site". people come to this site for learninf turkish and turkey, not for daily news.


It was everybody who responded, including Canli.

26.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 04:59 am

Quoting janissary:

Quoting catwoman:

A young Saudi Arabian woman was murdered by her father for chatting on the social network site Facebook, it has emerged.

The unnamed woman from Riyadh was beaten and shot after she was discovered in the middle of an online conversation with a man, the al-Arabiya website reported.

The case was reported on a Saudi Arabian news site as an example of the "strife" the social networking site is causing in the Islamic nation.

(Thankful of "International Campaign against honor killing" for the report.)



this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism



Sorry, but typically my reading doesn't include women getting beat to death in Saudi.. So, I think it's good to post topics like this to make an awareness.

Jan.it would be nice to see some response by you to this topic directly. What consequences should this father face and should she have had every right to be on facebook with out being beaten to death. Just curious.

27.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 05:25 am

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting janissary:

Quoting catwoman:

A young Saudi Arabian woman was murdered by her father for chatting on the social network site Facebook, it has emerged.

The unnamed woman from Riyadh was beaten and shot after she was discovered in the middle of an online conversation with a man, the al-Arabiya website reported.

The case was reported on a Saudi Arabian news site as an example of the "strife" the social networking site is causing in the Islamic nation.

(Thankful of "International Campaign against honor killing" for the report.)



this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism



Sorry, but typically my reading doesn't include women getting beat to death in Saudi.. So, I think it's good to post topics like this to make an awareness.

Jan.it would be nice to see some response by you to this topic directly. What consequences should this father face and should she have had every right to be on facebook with out being beaten to death. Just curious.



Jan, I guess your to busy trying to monitor what appear to you as anti-turkish posts, so you haven't taken the time to answer my question.

28.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 10:34 am

This is outrageous. But I don't think it is because of religion, it is because of society which is strictly patriarchal and women's place in the hierarchy is right behind farm animals. I wonder what the punishment to the father will be.

29.       sarikedi
62 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 06:39 pm

Quoting janissary:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting janissary:

this is an interestring news but we read newspapers like you catwoman I want to ask My Dear Modetators, is this post related with turkey???

oh sorry u dont check some member's posts. only our messages if there is something about nationalism


Read the forum rules before posting! According to the wishes of most people here, we modified the forum rules to allow discussions about everything.
If you have specific complaints about moderators/admins, you can send a PM to Admin with an explanation.




hehe. I know who are these "most of the ppl".when did u modified rules. before this post???

3 members wanted and it was accepted now I can understand why ppl left this site. because u post unrelated things with "turkishclass web site". people come to this site for learninf turkish and turkey, not for daily news.



It seems to me, as someone who reads often but doesn't post often, that people would leave turkishclass because of the constant bickering back and forth over forum rules. The reason I don't post often is because I fear anything I might write will be pounced on and attacked.

Surely everyone (not spammers) here has a common denominator--they enjoy turkey, it's culture, the language, and want to know more!--otherwise we wouldn't be a member here. Does that mean we have to be ignorant of current events? The last time I was in Turkey, these issues are the very things my Turkish friends and I discussed! I don't think I've met a Turkish person, passionate about their country, who wasn't eager to discuss politics and religion--in Turkey and elsewhere!

I have made several really good friends as a direct result of turkishclass. This would not have been possible without heartfelt discussions ranging a wide array of topics. And, at the end of the day, everything does relate back to Turkey: the main reason we are all here. Each of us, whether it be our spouse, our friends, where we visit, where we live, have a love of Turkey and the people. Is the aim of this site not to spread the joy of Turkey to all? Then please don't chase away precious members by nitpicking/criticizing everything they say.

30.       bydand
755 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 06:56 pm

Amen to that sarikedi. Some of the nitpickers have left though maybe only temporarily I fear.

31.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:12 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

This is outrageous. But I don't think it is because of religion, it is because of society which is strictly patriarchal and women's place in the hierarchy is right behind farm animals. I wonder what the punishment to the father will be.


Totally agree. I'm afraid that some aspects of the religion justify this social behavior.. :-S

32.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:14 pm

Quoting sarikedi:

It seems to me, as someone who reads often but doesn't post often, that people would leave turkishclass because of the constant bickering back and forth over forum rules. The reason I don't post often is because I fear anything I might write will be pounced on and attacked.

Surely everyone (not spammers) here has a common denominator--they enjoy turkey, it's culture, the language, and want to know more!--otherwise we wouldn't be a member here. Does that mean we have to be ignorant of current events? The last time I was in Turkey, these issues are the very things my Turkish friends and I discussed! I don't think I've met a Turkish person, passionate about their country, who wasn't eager to discuss politics and religion--in Turkey and elsewhere!

I have made several really good friends as a direct result of turkishclass. This would not have been possible without heartfelt discussions ranging a wide array of topics. And, at the end of the day, everything does relate back to Turkey: the main reason we are all here. Each of us, whether it be our spouse, our friends, where we visit, where we live, have a love of Turkey and the people. Is the aim of this site not to spread the joy of Turkey to all? Then please don't chase away precious members by nitpicking/criticizing everything they say.


We are trying to change this Sarikedi and make the forum less aggressive... Thanks for sharing.

33.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Apr 2008 Mon 02:26 am

I have the same experience as sarıkedi: in Turkey, ALL my friends willingly discuss the topics that are so difficult to talk about here. It were topics they often talk about and also were very willing to explain to me as a foreigner. I dont get why it is so hard to talk about TURKEY here.

I also dont understand why people keep talking about members leaving? People, this is a WEBSİTE, not a lifetimesentence! If you're bored, or start to have other stuff to do, you simply go! Its not like we are not getting any new members these days. The flood of new members is still like it used to be. People come people go.

If you want to go, go. If you want to stay, then JOİN.

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