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copyright issues
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12 Apr 2008 Sat 08:32 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Ghost2: Quoting karpusqueen: I began this thread yesterday but it disappeared, without explanation, overnight.
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I agree it is somewhat irksome. In a perfect world ALL your posts and threads would disappear overnight 
(Just passing through.....  ) |
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Karpusqueen you are currently complaining about teaschip1's post in 3 different threads - isn't this just a tiny bit excessive? Are you going for some sort of record? :-S
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12 Apr 2008 Sat 09:51 pm |
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Quoting lady in red: Quoting catwoman: Quoting Ghost2: Quoting karpusqueen: I began this thread yesterday but it disappeared, without explanation, overnight.
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I agree it is somewhat irksome. In a perfect world ALL your posts and threads would disappear overnight
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Karpusqueen you are currently complaining about teaschip1's post in 3 different threads - isn't this just a tiny bit excessive? Are you going for some sort of record? :-S |
Absolutely not and my reasons are more logical than you may think.
It all began during a debate about somethinhg else. In order not to detract from that debate (there had already been a discussion about threads going off topic and spoiling debates) I took it to another thread. That thread was locked, for some reason, so I began another with the same title as this one. That thread appears to have been deleted overnight without explanation. So I have repeated it.
As a Moderator you clearly have the capability to post on a locked thread. Obviously that now looks, to anyone reading your posts, as though one of the threads was current until after your post. Well done  .
This thread is not about teaschip1, it's about copyright issues. I gave some background information to put it in context. You can believe that or not. I don't care.
Now we are off topic again.
Care to begin a new thread about my supposed penchant for
repeating myself?
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13 Apr 2008 Sun 02:05 am |
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Quoting libralady: Although it is a long post and somewhat complicated to read, there is the point of copyright that should be considered, especially when the site advertises a lawyer of copyright, which is directly above post 7. I believe that if something is copied from a piece that holds a copyright symbol or clearly states that it is a copyright, then the source should be quoted. If the post is quoted from an article by an author then that author should be quoted. Not difficult - just a case of common decency!
Modified: it would be useful to hear other opinions
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Of course, I am very much against any copying of others works with out, at the very least, some type of credit given to the original author/artist.
As an artist with intellectual property,I have been involved in this issue both legally and morally. It is no small matter.
Did you know that Intellectual property is inheritable? In divorce cases it is part of community property?
No mark is needed for legal copyright protection. As soon as a work is fixed, it is copyright. It is a serious matter others here would do well to understand instead of trivializing and making into a joke.
Ever heard the saying, 'Ignorance of the law excuses no one'. How about driving over the speed limit, will you tell the officer, I didn't know? You will still get a ticket, or could even go to jail if the law you broke was serious. Once you get behind the wheel, you are expected to know the law.
It is best first to assume copyright, unless specifically and clearly stated public domain.
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13 Apr 2008 Sun 10:16 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting libralady: Although it is a long post and somewhat complicated to read, there is the point of copyright that should be considered, especially when the site advertises a lawyer of copyright, which is directly above post 7. I believe that if something is copied from a piece that holds a copyright symbol or clearly states that it is a copyright, then the source should be quoted. If the post is quoted from an article by an author then that author should be quoted. Not difficult - just a case of common decency!
Modified: it would be useful to hear other opinions
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Of course, I am very much against any copying of others works with out, at the very least, some type of credit given to the original author/artist.
As an artist with intellectual property,I have been involved in this issue both legally and morally. It is no small matter.
Did you know that Intellectual property is inheritable? In divorce cases it is part of community property?
No mark is needed for legal copyright protection. As soon as a work is fixed, it is copyright. It is a serious matter others here would do well to understand instead of trivializing and making into a joke.
Ever heard the saying, 'Ignorance of the law excuses no one'. How about driving over the speed limit, will you tell the officer, I didn't know? You will still get a ticket, or could even go to jail if the law you broke was serious. Once you get behind the wheel, you are expected to know the law.
It is best first to assume copyright, unless specifically and clearly stated public domain. |
I now how fiercely my company protects it's IPR especially when you know how much the product/piece/paper cost to produce!
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14 Apr 2008 Mon 01:06 pm |
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Ok, so Teas should have added link to the source she had quoted. It might have been a simple oversight. The person who noticed it might have simply added a link and leave it be. (I had a similar situation where I posted a missing link and was reprimanded for not having done so by PM). Teas explained why she hadn't quoted the source but that just added fuel to mission of the righteous to the effect that a new thread was started to lynch the guilty of the crime. Mods decided to delete this thread so the next day the same thread appears demanding justice for the lynching committee. Complaint about breaking the rule 12 breaks the rule about complaining to the mods by PM rather than posting on the forum. How consistent is that?
Everybody noticed that this thread is nothing but an attempt to humiliate Teas. To my great satisfaction, it resulted in humiliation of KarpusQ by her own self.
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14 Apr 2008 Mon 08:09 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: ..........Everybody noticed that this thread is nothing but an attempt to humiliate Teas. To my great satisfaction, it resulted in humiliation of KarpusQ by her own self. |
Daydreamer.....this topic is about copyright and the ethics and legality of it, not about teaschip.
I have been made fun of and belittled many times for including links to my posts. When I stated the reason for that, it was dismissed.
There is a reason. If it isn't too taxing, try reading the material K collected.
The fact of the matter is at the bottom of the page Add Message to the Forum is a link to rules which quite specifically state:
Writing in the Forum
12. Any message with more than a few sentences copied from another source must give the source with the copied text. Excessive copying from other sources must be avoided. Instead of pasting a whole article please post a link to the article and your thoughts about it in a few sentences.
5. Forum messages should have meaningful content. Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) nonsense posts, or such like
Uploading Pictures and Essays
3. Pictures of Turkey uploaded by a user must belong to the user or the source of the picture must be appropriately referenced. If the uploading user does not own the uploaded picture, he/she must get permission from the owner of the picture before uploading.
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14 Apr 2008 Mon 09:31 pm |
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Quoting alameda:
Daydreamer.....this topic is about copyright and the ethics and legality of it, not about teaschip.
I have been made fun of and belittled many times for including links to my posts. When I stated the reason for that, it was dismissed.
There is a reason. If it isn't too taxing, try reading the material K collected.
The fact of the matter is at the bottom of the page Add Message to the Forum is a link to rules which quite specifically state:
Writing in the Forum
12. Any message with more than a few sentences copied from another source must give the source with the copied text. Excessive copying from other sources must be avoided. Instead of pasting a whole article please post a link to the article and your thoughts about it in a few sentences.
5. Forum messages should have meaningful content. Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) nonsense posts, or such like
Uploading Pictures and Essays
3. Pictures of Turkey uploaded by a user must belong to the user or the source of the picture must be appropriately referenced. If the uploading user does not own the uploaded picture, he/she must get permission from the owner of the picture before uploading.
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Oh please alameda!!!! None of us are stupid enough to believe that peace train posted this thread to call attention to a copyright issue. We have seen enough of her writing to know what she was doing.
As far as you being made fun of for posting links, you can’t really be that literal can you?? I will repeat myself one more time for your benefit…..it isn’t about the links. It is about the condescending, self-righteous, “I’m smarter than everyone†attitude that you display each and every time you write here. You just don’t get it and unfortunately, I am sure you never will.
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14 Apr 2008 Mon 11:46 pm |
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Exactly! And if they don't, you may very well be deprived of the extra hits, and don't get your place in the top 10. Thus depriving you of potential income.
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