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Fitna (a short movie about Islam in Europe)
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1.       catwoman
8933 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 08:16 pm

This movie is only mentioning FACTS, there's no personal interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFh4wR2QcM

2.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 09:00 pm

That clip seems scaremongering to me.

3.       azade
1606 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:14 pm

Fitna film is the product of hate and ignorance, and personally I think Geert Wilders has made a fool of himself. Plus, he's only angering radicals even more by throwing fuel at the fire.

4.       catwoman
8933 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:43 pm

Quoting azade:

Fitna film is the product of hate and ignorance, and personally I think Geert Wilders has made a fool of himself. Plus, he's only angering radicals even more by throwing fuel at the fire.


I completely disagree with everything you said. It's not a product of hate at all, it is ONLY reporting facts. Everything that is mentioned in the clip is completely true and is happening all the time. Hate is what Muslims are saying and doing against non-muslims, and that somehow goes unnoticed, eh? I don't know Wilders, but no matter who he is or what he does, it was very brave and honest of him to make this clip (since the religion of peace kills everybody who criticizes it).

Angering radicals? So you also think that we should appease them and follow their orders? No, it's very good that he angered the radicals (criminals and terrorists) and it's time that these radicals are taken before the law and hopefully eradicated from the society.

5.       azade
1606 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:48 pm

I was counting on you to disagree

Anyway I agree with the last paragraph, radicals belong behind bars.

6.       geniuda
1070 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:51 pm

I have not seen the movie, but I think it seems to show Islam only from radicals' point of view. Lets not forget that not all Islam believers are radicals and not all are terrorists :-S

7.       geniuda
1070 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:54 pm

Quoting azade:


Anyway I agree with the last paragraph, radicals belong behind bars.


Yes, I agree too

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 10:55 pm

Quoting geniuda:

I have not seen the movie, but I think it seems to show Islam only from radicals' point of view. Lets not forget that not all Islam believers are radicals and not all are terrorists :-s


I don't think this is a clip about Islam, it is a clip about islamisation of Europe. It is not meant to show all Islam, it is just meant to show radicals, what they do, what they base their actions on and how their ideology is being spread on all muslims.
So far I have no idea about non-radical muslims. I don't hear them anywhere, they are not condemning anything that's done by the "radicals", so apparently they quietly support the killings and hatred.

9.       azade
1606 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 11:06 pm

I condemn any kind of radicalism and all other muslims I know do too, but the voice of a few psychopaths who bomb and kill people echoes in every corner of the world. It is VERY hard to make oneself heard above that voice, unfortunately.

Hatred breeds hatred, and I don't see what good this film does. It's just a bunch of news clips, there's nothing new there at all. It makes islam haters stronger in their belief, and radicals eager to kill more innocents.

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 11:11 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting geniuda:

I have not seen the movie, but I think it seems to show Islam only from radicals' point of view. Lets not forget that not all Islam believers are radicals and not all are terrorists :-s


I don't think this is a clip about Islam, it is a clip about islamisation of Europe. It is not meant to show all Islam, it is just meant to show radicals, what they do, what they base their actions on and how their ideology is being spread on all muslims.
So far I have no idea about non-radical muslims. I don't hear them anywhere, they are not condemning anything that's done by the "radicals", so apparently they quietly support the killings and hatred.



I can not see anything such as 'islamisation of Europe' in Europe in generic term..
It is a pure scaremongering..

It reminded me BNP supporters in the UK saying that 'pakistani boys are doing this , doing that, raping white girls' etc.
Apart from that, nobody should be surprised why non radicals are quite.
Look at what happened after 9/11:
West (usa as the leader of west) made the islamic world soaked in blood.
Look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq, look at Palestine.
If the west is not feeling secure right now, it is the result of its actions in above countries.

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