The same old story over and over again. Alamenda try to read my post before answering it. Didn't I write about psychopaths as the only ones using Christianity to account for their crimes? To my best knowledge if you beat a woman, kill your daughter for being raped and the like you go to prison in this bad "Christian" west. Some freaks who happen to go to church and still beat their wives don't quote the bible to justify it Unlike those Muslims who use Quran for this purpose.

That reminds me of this video Handsom posted about how Muslims debate. You speak of flowers and they go on about vegetables. You are an excellent example of not responding to arguments but going off topic Not surprising really. You're on the losing side

And that word...Using analogy to the example I gave (the substitution method) If I say "I can X a rock" X can be replaced by both move and hit. A bit different from the beat word

Handsom is more than right saying that what you perceive as Christian culture is not as discriminatory as Islam. And police is definitely not working basing on Christian laws . And that's even in Poland, which is a really religious country. I dislike Christianity and Islam all the same, but I have to give justice and see the difference. Sure you're not able to do it as you're not objective. Still, no matter how much you foam at the mouth you wont change the facts

Can I picture what you'll reply?
Alameda will post 3 links from newspapers giving examples of crimes in the west and will consider it a counterbalance for the fact that police doesn't help battered women in the east.

Armegon will applaud her findings and find a verse from the bible talking about killing or the like. He will ignore the fact that no custom of violence is justified in bible. Oh, are we in the middle ages again?

I think we're talking about two different things here. I was talking about what Alameda said about the word used in the video. In the context of the video only the word beat would suit logically.

In the passage you used I see no mention of bruising, face or breaking bones. So, I assume it's not the same thing we're discussing. Still, I would love you to quote me a passage about what men's punishment is if he rebels against family or society.

I'm sorry if you find what I write a religious debate. It is never intended to be this way. I am an Atheist so if I were to have religious debates I'd rather be commenting on the silliness of believing in God (any god for that matter) than on Islam only. What I have been discussing here is the social impact of societies with Islam as dominant religion. Many a time I have emphasised that the impact stems from specific way of interpretation rather than verbatim following of religious documents. Still, what you do is to try to show me I am wrong by interpreting verses. So, let's be brief and answer a few quick Yes-No questions

1. Is it true that women in some Arab countries have problems if they leave the house without male company?
2. Is it true that there are still events of honour killing among people who are Muslims?
3. Is it probable that in Lebanon police will not intervene in case of domestic violence?
4. Do Muslims ever interpret Quran in different way? Can it result in justifying violence against women?
5. Do all Muslim women have the right (in practice, NOT theory) to reject a husband/veto another marriage of her husband?
6. Is adultery punished in some Muslim countries?
7. Is it legally forbidden to convert to a religion other than Islam in some countries?

You don't have to answer in writing, because if you do, you will have to lie to save your face. And I'm not asking you about what Quran says about the above. I am asking about what reality looks like in predominantly Muslim countries. Also, I don't state that it is the case in Muslim countries or that it's true about all Muslims. The questions concern a trend, something more than individual cases.

To save you the usual 'Christianity is worse' I answered the same questions for countries most Muslims consider predominantly Christian

1. Is it true that women in some western countries have problems if they leave the house without male company?

NO

2. Is it true that there are still events of honour killing among people in the west?
NO
3. Is it probable that in western countries police will not intervene in case of domestic violence?
NO
4. Do Christians ever interpret Bible in different way?
YES
Can it result in justifying violence against women?
NO
5. Do all Christian women have the right (in practice, NOT theory) to reject a husband/veto another marriage of her husband?
YES
6. Is adultery punished in some Christian countries?
NO
7. Is it legally forbidden to convert to a religion other than Christianity in some countries?
NO

It amuses me to read how you believe I simplify things. No, I don't believe all men in the east beat their wives. I do believe some women actually beat their husbands, or control them rather than the other way around. I am more than well aware that some Muslim women are wonderful, self-conscious females who know what they want, have the necessary education and will not let themselves be dominated by men just because of their gender. Also, I see a huge difference between countries like Egypt or Turkey and countries with more radical approach like Saudi Arabia. However, what always surprises me is how eager are Muslims to defend those who break basic human rights just because they believe it saves the face of their religion.

I have just read that over the past 15 years more than 1000 women were stoned to death in Iran.
Very shocking, it is just a tip of an ice-berg, I don't know how many were executed by other types of CP.
Source: The stoning of Soraya M. by Freidoune Sahebjam