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Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are plagiarized
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29 May 2008 Thu 01:40 am |
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did you know that the stories of Adam and the great flood were written in the Sumerian writings too as it`s told in Bible and Kuran? Neither Judaism, Christianity, or Islam recognizes the pagan religions, but how come they happen to tell the same stories?
This is a very interesting article especially if you still believe in the religion crap.
http://www.helium.com/items/185874-history-modern-religion-three
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29 May 2008 Thu 09:54 am |
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Well, I don't know about Judaism and Islam, but I can assume it worked the same way as Christianity - when you wanted people to become followers of a religion, it wasn't a painless process. People who grew up believing in tree-gods and other things were not eager to abandon their forefathers faith. Some people converted to a new religion just like that, others had it imposed on them by force, but some others were just pretending to be converted while still practising pagan rituals. Eventually, Christian Church accepted some rituals and traditions as claimed it was not pagan but Christian (like Christmas tree for example).
As for mythology, it's no wonder that these 3 main religions share similar stories as they all took from pagan beliefs. Pagan mythologies were similar, so, in result, all religions that took from them, are similar too. Even Daniken refers to the same myths explaining aliens' influence on us 
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29 May 2008 Thu 03:00 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer:
As for mythology, it's no wonder that these 3 main religions share similar stories as they all took from pagan beliefs. Pagan mythologies were similar, so, in result, all religions that took from them, are similar too. Even Daniken refers to the same myths explaining aliens' influence on us |
Right, but the question is, if the pagan religions are not divine as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam state, how come they narrate the story of Adam as it's told in these three "divine" religions? Now, there are two possibilities;
1) The pagan religions are divine too. If that's the case, we have to believe there are multiple gods which the three major religions refuse.
2) The so called divine religions namely Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are not divine either just like the pagan religions.
Which one sounds more plausible?
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29 May 2008 Thu 06:07 pm |
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This is a very interesting subject. Certainly in Christianity, there are many examples of it. Christmas itself (December 25th) is not Jesus's birthday, but was a pagan winter festival which was "adopted" by the Christians. Halloween is celebrated (yuck!) throughout much of the Christian world, yet is a pagan celebration.
The fact that most of religion is geographical and that even the most devout Christian would be a Muslim if they had been born in another country, merely shows to me what a farce it all is.
Quoting tamikidakika: This is a very interesting article especially if you still believe in the religion crap. |
Heheh made me laugh 
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29 May 2008 Thu 06:10 pm |
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i believe superitory of ethical rules instead of religional rules or beliefs,easier to find most common paths with ethical rules with the simple help of mind&soul...And some unvolitional things (belifes,nationalites,races etc.. )become reason of big divisions and troubles,not easy to understand that while our minds have enough ability for to find most common true things
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29 May 2008 Thu 07:46 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika: did you know that the stories of Adam and the great flood were written in the Sumerian writings too as it`s told in Bible and Kuran? Neither Judaism, Christianity, or Islam recognizes the pagan religions, but how come they happen to tell the same stories?
This is a very interesting article especially if you still believe in the religion crap.
http://www.helium.com/items/185874-history-modern-religion-three |
Just think about it a minute ...
If Adam and the Noah's Flood are true, then why is it surprising that ALL old texts from this period refer to them? Like history.
If they are not true, then it is surprising that both the Sumerian and Jewish history tell the story of a flood.
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29 May 2008 Thu 08:09 pm |
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Looks like a validation to me.
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29 May 2008 Thu 11:55 pm |
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Not so much interesting since God had sent to every nation/folk a messenger who preached the same teachings  .
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:11 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
1) The pagan religions are divine too. If that's the case, we have to believe there are multiple gods which the three major religions refuse.
2) The so called divine religions namely Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are not divine either just like the pagan religions.
Which one sounds more plausible? |
Nice choice I'd go for the second option but with further explanation. The way I see it, religions (faith/beliefs) have always been means of:
1. Explaining the unexplainable
However, together with technological and scientific progress more and more things become accounted for in terms of science. Thus, it would be funny to assume things like Moon or thunder are gods. As there's still a lot for us to discover, some people find it easier to believe that one superior creature controls everything rather than think that there's a couple of gods responsible for their departments.
2. Controlling communities - or, in other words, to assist the law. People are more likely not to commit crimes if they fear eternal consequences rather than 25 years of imprisonment
3. Helping to preserve spirit of unity - like language, customs and traditions, common religion helps people feel like unity in their communities. they get a sense of belonging - that also explains why religion is so geography-dependent. Like AE said, our religion is basically just repeating our parents behaviour
4. Imposing a set of rules (hygienic and moral) not included in legal systems - here's the pork ban in Islam, alms, depilation techniques, circumcision etc. People wouldn't be so eager to deprive young males of the skin on their sensitive parts if they didn't believe they're doing it for the upper cause
5. Psychological boost - a popular animal, like a human being is, gets the sense of being unique when they hear they're the chosen ones and that there is a supernatural superior being that loves them. Also, it helps many people to come to terms with their mortality - they're wooed by the perspective of an afterlife. Were there be no religions, many people would be reluctant to accept that we are here just to breed and obey biology just like all other animals we consider inferior to us.
Religions can easily be accounted for in terms of sociology and psychology. I see nothing divine about them. They are often abused but we cannot underestimate the positive effect they have on many people.
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30 May 2008 Fri 12:39 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting zhang ziyi: I read this joke the other day
The quran is at a job interview. The boss asks, "Do you have references?" quran replies, "Torah and Bible, call them." So the boss calls Torah, and Torah replies, "I have never heard of him." Confused, the boss calls Bible and Bible says, "I know him; he is a liar and a thief and is actually from Satan, the devil, don't believe him." Pressed by the boss, quran defends "they are liars." And the boss reasons: "if they are liars, why do you use them for references unless you are insane?" |
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Very nice joke indeed,RESPECTİNG the Muslim's members feelings here in TLC by insulting their holly book !
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG!
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30 May 2008 Fri 03:31 pm |
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Quoting CANLI:
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
I agree. Hypocrisy is a bad habbit.
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30 May 2008 Fri 03:57 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI:
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
I agree. Hypocrisy is a bad habbit.
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and laughing and making fun of holly books of any religion is the perfect example of a bad taste and immaturity!!!!
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30 May 2008 Fri 06:50 pm |
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30 May 2008 Fri 06:57 pm |
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Quoting zhang ziyi: How dare you offend me? Your post is very offensive and agressive. It lacks a bit of culture.
You indeed need to learn to respect the other people and their ways of being.
Quoting CANLI:
Very nice joke indeed,RESPECTİNG the Muslim's members feelings here in TLC by insulting their holly book !
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
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Speaking to yourself???bcs I can't see anything offensive in Canli post...U seem to have problems,especially with choice of"what to post"
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30 May 2008 Fri 08:55 pm |
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Look, whos talking about respect , post of ignorance and immaturity. Maybe again her Turkish boyfriend sent this ridicule joke . And just one reply from Kuran;
“whenever they hear vain talk of ridicule, they withdraw from it decently and say, 'To us our deeds and to you yours - Peace be upon you! We do not seek out the ignorant.' “
Quoting zhang ziyi:
You indeed need to learn to respect the other people and their ways of being.
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:09 pm |
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Quoting armegon: Look, whos talking about respect , post of ignorance and immaturity. Maybe again her Turkish boyfriend sent this ridicule joke . And just one reply from Kuran;
“whenever they hear vain talk of ridicule, they withdraw from it decently and say, 'To us our deeds and to you yours - Peace be upon you! We do not seek out the ignorant.' “
Quoting zhang ziyi:
You indeed need to learn to respect the other people and their ways of being.
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Well said armegon,I can only add M.L.King Jr quotation
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:32 pm |
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I said nothing bad to you. And you are offending and insulting me.
I will report your impolite comment to Admin.
Quoting Avalon:
Speaking to yourself???bcs I can't see anything offensive in Canli post...U seem to have problems,especially with choice of"what to post" |
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:33 pm |
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I said nothing bad to you. And you are offending and insulting me.
I will report your impolite comment to Admin.
Quoting armegon: Look, whos talking about respect , post of ignorance and immaturity. Maybe again her Turkish boyfriend sent this ridicule joke . And just one reply from Kuran;
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:53 pm |
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Quoting zhang ziyi: I said nothing bad to you. And you are offending and insulting me.
I will report your impolite comment to Admin.
Quoting Avalon:
Speaking to yourself???bcs I can't see anything offensive in Canli post...U seem to have problems,especially with choice of"what to post" |
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 I just believe that adm has more common sense!
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:55 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI:
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
I agree. Hypocrisy is a bad habbit.
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And look who's talking!
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:56 pm |
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Yes, I have sent a complaint to Admin against your rude behaviour towards me.
Quoting Avalon: Feel free I just believe that adm has more common sense! |
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30 May 2008 Fri 09:57 pm |
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Quoting Avalon: Well said armegon,I can only add M.L.King Jr quotation
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity |
I find it rather ignorant and immature to use such language as an expression of your disagreement!
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:00 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Very nice joke indeed,RESPECTİNG the Muslim's members feelings here in TLC by insulting their holly book !
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
Thank you Canli for a balanced post. You are right. I'm sorry for disrespecting your religious feelings. I think it's appropriate to remove that joke.
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:00 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Avalon: Well said armegon,I can only add M.L.King Jr quotation
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity |
I find it rather ignorant and immature to use such language as an expression of your disagreement! |
Catwoman ,I simply have very good teachers here at TC..and I'm learning fast.
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:01 pm |
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Quoting Avalon: Catwoman ,I simply have very good teachers here at TC..and I'm learning fast. |
No kidding! Just don't contradict yourself next time, ok? That would be very nice.
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:05 pm |
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Ok,but I do not feel like offending the person personally,I just thought that Kuran believers as Canli and others would not like to have an egg on their face...well,perhaps people do not like M.L.K.Jr..pity.Great man
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:46 pm |
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Quoting Avalon: Ok,but I do not feel like offending the person personally,I just thought that Kuran believers as Canli and others would not like to have an egg on their face...well,perhaps people do not like M.L.K.Jr..pity.Great man |
Oh please, don't pretend you don't understand and stop hiding behind MLK. If you preach about tactful expressions, then you should be able to follow your own advise.
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30 May 2008 Fri 10:51 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Avalon: Ok,but I do not feel like offending the person personally,I just thought that Kuran believers as Canli and others would not like to have an egg on their face...well,perhaps people do not like M.L.K.Jr..pity.Great man |
Oh please, don't pretend you don't understand and stop hiding behind MLK. If you preach about tactful expressions, then you should be able to follow your own advise. |
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30 May 2008 Fri 11:04 pm |
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However, you didnt protest against the initial post - which was not a joke, but a serious statement - of this forum. You must have got a double standard.
Quoting Avalon: I am not pretending,and I am not preaching.And as far as I remember you were also laughing at this joke.I do not like when people's religious feelings are treated with disrespect. |
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30 May 2008 Fri 11:11 pm |
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serious statment from tamikidakika????
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30 May 2008 Fri 11:41 pm |
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Quoting Avalon: I am not pretending,and I am not preaching.And as far as I remember you were also laughing at this joke.I do not like when people's religious feelings are treated with disrespect. |
Well, and I don't like when you treat people with disrespect. Zeng was completely right, she said nothing bad to you (or others) and you responded in an insulting way.
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30 May 2008 Fri 11:42 pm |
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Quoting Avalon: serious statment from tamikidakika???? |
... believe it or not... :-S
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30 May 2008 Fri 11:50 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Avalon: I am not pretending,and I am not preaching.And as far as I remember you were also laughing at this joke.I do not like when people's religious feelings are treated with disrespect. |
Well, and I don't like when you treat people with disrespect. Zeng was completely right, she said nothing bad to you (or others) and you responded in an insulting way. |
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31 May 2008 Sat 12:08 am |
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Quoting zhang ziyi: How dare you offend me? Your post is very offensive and agressive. It lacks a bit of culture.
You indeed need to learn to respect the other people and their ways of being.
Quoting CANLI:
Very nice joke indeed,RESPECTİNG the Muslim's members feelings here in TLC by insulting their holly book !
Yeah,i think its funny too ,in a thread discussing the three religion,why not insult quran the holly book of Muslims?!
What's new ?!
Become BORİNG! |
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Some posts dont worth replying them,specially when they contradict themselves
And that is one of them !
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31 May 2008 Sat 12:33 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
Zeng was completely right, she said nothing bad to you (or others) and you responded in an insulting way. |
Actually Zeng said more than ONE bad thing ,i believe many people can see that !
However Avalon and other members replies were enough,so it doesnt worth mine .
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31 May 2008 Sat 01:38 am |
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Canli, I apologize.
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31 May 2008 Sat 02:16 am |
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Accepted cat
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31 May 2008 Sat 04:27 am |
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Thread locked because religious discussion is starting to turn personal.
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