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Oppression against the Turks in China
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 08:09 am |
The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 03:53 pm |
Quoting tamikidakika: The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html |
Among the arrested are people who have poisened kindergartners, bombed public places and have destroyed oil pipes among other crimes. They are defined as a "terrorist group" under the UN Resolution. The same criteria that the UN defines as a terrorist group that includes the PKK. The U.S. administration however does not agree with China's "war on terrorism" So are the Uyghurs terrorists or victims of terrorism?
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 07:34 pm |
Quoting teaschip: Quoting tamikidakika: The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html |
Among the arrested are people who have poisened kindergartners, bombed public places and have destroyed oil pipes among other crimes. They are defined as a "terrorist group" under the UN Resolution. The same criteria that the UN defines as a terrorist group that includes the PKK. The U.S. administration however does not agree with China's "war on terrorism" So are the Uyghurs terrorists or victims of terrorism? |
You mean 100,000 of people were terrorists? You`re calling the Uyghurs terrorists, but then why not the Kurds. If Turkey arrested 100,000 of Kurds accusing them of terrorism, would you give the same reaction? China is openly abusing 9/11 in a disgusting way whether you believe or not, and "China`s war on terrorism" sounds like a joke.
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 08:56 pm |
There must be a reason to that. Let us see the other side of the coin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhohwT5-27c
Quoting tamikidakika: The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html |
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 09:42 pm |
Quoting zhang ziyi: There must be a reason to that. Let us see the other side of the coin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhohwT5-27c
Quoting tamikidakika: The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html |
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A Chinese propaganda movie on youtube, What a proof!! and is this the excuse for China to jail murder and torture 100,000 people? Why is China still keeping the illegal occupation of East Turkistan?
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10 Jun 2008 Tue 10:04 pm |
Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting teaschip: Quoting tamikidakika: The article below says that 100,000 Uyghurs have been arrested and some got killed by the Chinese since 2001. Yet the situation doesn`t seem as interesting as the occupation of Tibet to the West since the oppressed are Muslims.
http://www.uygur.org/enorg/h_rights/report_9_11_2002.html |
Among the arrested are people who have poisened kindergartners, bombed public places and have destroyed oil pipes among other crimes. They are defined as a "terrorist group" under the UN Resolution. The same criteria that the UN defines as a terrorist group that includes the PKK. The U.S. administration however does not agree with China's "war on terrorism" So are the Uyghurs terrorists or victims of terrorism? |
You mean 100,000 of people were terrorists? You`re calling the Uyghurs terrorists, but then why not the Kurds. If Turkey arrested 100,000 of Kurds accusing them of terrorism, would you give the same reaction? China is openly abusing 9/11 in a disgusting way whether you believe or not, and "China`s war on terrorism" sounds like a joke. |
No, I'm saying that China has declared them as terrorists, especially the ETIM, backed by the UN Resolution. Also these terrorist acts were well before 9/11. They were receiving financial aid from international terrorists groups. Do I think 9/11 gave the Chinese government another reason to go after these groups? Absolutely! Again this is Chinas "war on terrorism". Whether I agree with it or not.
I mentioned the PKK as well since the UN also views them as a terrorist group. So did the UN get it wrong? Does China have any obligation to the Uyghur people to give back their land. Does Turkey have any obligation to give back the Kurds land? Are the Uyghur people victims of terrorism or terrorists?
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11 Jun 2008 Wed 12:40 am |
Quoting teaschip:
No, I'm saying that China has declared them as terrorists, especially the ETIM, backed by the UN Resolution. Also these terrorist acts were well before 9/11. They were receiving financial aid from international terrorists groups. Do I think 9/11 gave the Chinese government another reason to go after these groups? Absolutely! Again this is Chinas "war on terrorism". Whether I agree with it or not. |
I`m asking you a simple question; are these 100,000 of people all terrorists? How would it be if the Turkish government jailed killed or tortured 100,000 of Kurds because of pkk? Would you say "oh thats fine they deserve that?" like what you say for the Uyghurs?
Quoting teaschip:
Does China have any obligation to the Uyghur people to give back their land. Does Turkey have any obligation to give back the Kurds land?
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What do you mean by "giving back the Kurds land". Can you tell me when they had a Kurdish state here? Do you think there was smt called "Kurd" 1000 years ago? No they were Iranians, and there is already an existing country called Iran. East Turkistan has been Turkic land for thousands of years, and it was a sovereign state in the 1940`s before it got occupied by China and USSR.
and if the Uyghurs are terrorists, Kurds and Americans are terrorists as well. Do you accept?
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11 Jun 2008 Wed 01:30 pm |
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11 Jun 2008 Wed 01:41 pm |
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