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Oppression against the Turks in China
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10.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 01:54 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Let us see the other side of the coin. The Turks occupied the lands that belonged to Greeks, you first give the lands. Retreat to where you come from (Central Asia maybe?). Maybe then China will consider over the East Turkistan



Hehe Turks NEVER see the "other side of the coin" - didn't you know it yet?

Other countries are invaders, imperialists, barbarians...but the Ottomans visited other countries and handed out flowers! lol lol lol

11.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 04:26 pm

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12.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 10:04 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Forget about East Turkistan. It belongs to China. And it always belonged to China,



is this crap what they teach you at the schools there? If East Turkistan had always belonged to China ,why isn`t it inside of the Chinese wall? But I`m sure they teach you that Tibet has always been Chinese land as well.

Quoting zhang ziyi:


meanwhile millions of Turks migrated from their countries seeking haven from USSR to China.



right you can earn 70 bucks a month by working 14 hrs a day, and the government may shoot you and send your family a bill for the bullet they wasted. what a nice place to seek haven in!!!

Quoting zhang ziyi:



Let us see the other side of the coin. The Turks occupied the lands that belonged to Greeks, you first give the lands.



No you first learn some history, because Anatolia has never been Greek. The Greek stole the land from the Trojans and the other Anatolian people at the time. So maybe you should find a better argument.


And what does the incidences of 1000 years ago have to do with the inhumane and barbaric acts of TODAY`s China???

This is my last respond to you. you can write whatever you want. There is no point for me to deal with a brainwashed person who says East Turkistan has always been China`s.

13.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 10:47 pm

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14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 11:31 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

tamikidakika
When you refuse further discussion, theres no point for me to address my post to you. However, just a thought travelled to my mind: you have your brainwashing in your schools and we have ours in our schools.


That thought has not traveled to my mind... You are probably brainwashed, but Turks are not! Ever! They lack the gene that makes it possible for a person to be brainwashed.

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Having said that, Do not forget, today we easily can access many interesting sources thanks to Internet and keep learning.


Provided that internet is not censored. lol Both China and Turkey are champions of free speech (the Turkish 'thought crime' laws are just a funny joke)

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 11:37 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Hehe Turks NEVER see the "other side of the coin" - didn't you know it yet?

Other countries are invaders, imperialists, barbarians...but the Ottomans visited other countries and handed out flowers! lol lol lol


But that is true! Ottomans were welcome in Europe, that's the only reason why they "invaded" it... They they never used violence, only spreading love and to the infidels...

16.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 03:00 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Hehe Turks NEVER see the "other side of the coin" - didn't you know it yet?

Other countries are invaders, imperialists, barbarians...but the Ottomans visited other countries and handed out flowers! lol lol lol


But that is true! Ottomans were welcome in Europe, that's the only reason why they "invaded" it... They they never used violence, only spreading love and to the infidels...



catwoman, you messed up again, I have to admit. Speaking of taming "infidels", no one could rival your ancestors. Do they even teach you how the Europeans terrorised the mid east for 200 years and killed millions of people for their fascistic ideal, crusade, or how they converted the whole southern Africa, Asia and South America by sword into Christianity, or how they killed the Jews and outlawed their religion hundreds of years? Can you tell me why the Jews fled to Anatolia if the Europeans were getting along well with the "infidel"? Do they tell you how the Europeans genocided the Mayas, Incas, American Natives, Aborigines, and Algerians. Of course not!! But your ignorance and arrogance don`t change the fact that they did happen.


Catwoman, get over it. The history of Europeans is much more bloody and barbaric than of any other race you can name. might be sad for you but it`s true.

17.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 04:44 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:

There must be a reason to that. Let us see the other side of the coin.



Hmmm....it's interesting to see that MEMRI has such a fan club here....

I posted this before....but....

MEMRI

MEMRI is operated by a group closely associated with the Israeli intelligence organizations. Now, in an article in Haaretz, we find that the Israeli Army has sought to plant stories about 'terrorism' in the press, and

'Psychological warfare officers were in touch with Israeli journalists covering the Arab world, gave them translated articles from Arab papers (which were planted by the [Israel Defense Forces] IDF) and pressed the Israeli reporters to publish the same news here.' --Amos Harel, IDF reviving psychological warfare unit, Haaretz, January 25, 2005.

This should raise a question or two about the reliability and veracity of the stories peddled by MEMRI.

This is what Prof. Juan Cole had to say about this:

'So is MEMRI, which translates articles from the Arabic press into English for thousands of US subscribers, in any way involved in all this? Its director formerly served in… Israeli military intelligence. How much of what we 'know' from 'Arab sources' about 'Hizbullah terrorism' was simply made up by this fantasy factory in Tel Aviv?
As someone who reads the Arabic press quite a lot, this sort of revelation is extremely disturbing.
I also saw an allegation that British military intelligence had planted stories in the US press about Saddam's Iraq.
You begin to wonder how much of what you think you know is just propaganda manufactured by some bored colonel. No wonder post-Baath Iraq looks nothing like what we were led to to expect by the press, including the Arab press!' [3]

MEMRI

18.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 05:45 am

Tamikidakika - Europeans are not denying their bloody past, neither are Christians. Turks (and Muslims) on the other hand, live in some sort of fantasy illusion that they are angels from heaven.

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