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Progressive Muslim Women
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30.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:56 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



It is rather denigrating, making fun of 'Poles who rent another house with an entire group and just come here for beer and a few quid'.



It is true in 90% cases (you don't really think Poles go there for the love of language), so why should anyone get offended? I wouldn't be surprised if that song played in Polish clubs lol

31.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:57 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

It is true in 90% cases, so why should anyone get offended? I wouldn't be surprised if that song played in Polish clubs lol



Well Im not offended But I feel it to be denigrating for people who do need that money. It is like they look down on people who work hard for just a little bit of money (whereas they get it with such an idiot song )

32.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:58 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Like DK said - the Netherlands never had one and it's really hard to consider her homeland not a progressive country



33.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:58 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:



Still, I see no point in debating over female prime ministers/presidents. Like DK said - the Netherlands never had one and it's really hard to consider her homeland not a progressive country



right, especially when she equates progress with prostitution and drugs. lol

34.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:00 pm

I have no idea how much people make in the Netherlands, but I bet it's not really "a little" for them since they do it. Let's be honest, apart from hard-working immigrants, there's a lot of guys who act like they were from the outer space - 10 people living in one house, eating cheapest food and drinking till they drop each weekend. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some like that here. They deserved this song Plus, treat the money the Dutch guys make on it as a compensation

35.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:03 pm

Quoting tamikidakika:

right, especially when she equates progress with prostitution and drugs. lol



I never did that But at least people here are given a free choice, and that is progress to me.

36.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:03 pm

Quoting tamikidakika:



right, especially when she equates progress with prostitution and drugs. lol



It is a matter of free choice. Nobody forces you to either. What is more fair: a country that lets you decide for yourself how you want to live or a country that limits your choice? Besides, in Turkey people do have access to drugs and prostitution, degil mi? So, basically, what goes on in the Netherlands is that they limited the illegal market by legalising it. Now the country has better means of controlling it.

37.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:03 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I have no idea how much people make in the Netherlands, but I bet it's not really "a little" for them since they do it. Let's be honest, apart from hard-working immigrants, there's a lot of guys who act like they were from the outer space - 10 people living in one house, eating cheapest food and drinking till they drop each weekend. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some like that here. They deserved this song Plus, treat the money the Dutch guys make on it as a compensation



Ok ok You win I'm just immigrant-friendly

38.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:06 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Well... I just stumbled on some material about this lady that I never heard of before - Shazia Mirza and I thought "Wow!" This is amazing! A Muslim woman, born in the UK who remained a Muslim but became a stand-up comedian (of course) against the will of her parents. She refused to be put in a box and to be told what she should believe and how she should practice her religion. She speaks her mind about arranged marriages, separation of women and men, the treatment of girls... etc. Interestingly enough, she gets harassed and abused most by Muslims, especially Muslim men!

Shazia Mirza, audio files page

If you know of some other progressive Muslim women, let us know!



Yasmin Alibhai-Brown writes in the Independent and has some outspoken views.

39.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 05:54 pm

Thanks for posting this Catwoman. I saw this woman the other night on Last Comic Standing and she was very funny. She has great energy.

40.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:06 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

That's all nice and well, but I'm ashamed to say that such a progressive country as the Netherlands, has never had a female prime minister We may have a queen, but that is just a formality, so no woman has ever had the political power.


I wonder if the progressive country of Netherlands will ever allow a white man to be the queen!!! I doubt they will!

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