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THE USA ELECTION 2008
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1.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:05 pm


Who will win the Presidential Election in the USA?
- Barrack Obama
- John McCain
- Hillary Clington ?
- ???

2.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:14 pm

Quoting yilgun-7:


Who will win the Presidential Election in the USA?
- Barrack Obama
- John McCain
- Hillary Clington ?
- ???



Well....I don't think Hillary Clington is in with much of a chance, not sure who '???' is but I think he/she is probably out of the running too and if I knew the answer between the other two I could probably win a lot of money at Ladbrokes

3.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:16 pm

Well the thread Hillary was clinging to has been cut recently . . .

4.       sonunda
5004 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:29 pm

Hilary Cling on? lol

5.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:31 pm

Quoting sonunda:

Hilary Cling on? lol



You remember her sonunda - she was in Star Trek - ugly woman, apt to kill you soon as look at you

6.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:32 pm

I'm hoping it's not the candidate that stated he was campaigning in 57 states... and yes Hillary has to suck it up and back Obama if she has a chance in four years to run again.

7.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:34 pm

Quoting teaschip:

I'm hoping it's not the candidate that stated he was campaigning in 57 states... and yes Hillary has to suck it up and back Obama if she has a chance in four years to run again.



This thread doesn't warrant informed serious opinions teaschip!!

lollollol

8.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:49 pm

According to the Press, Obama will win the election.


9.       sonunda
5004 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:50 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting sonunda:

Hilary Cling on? lol



You remember her sonunda - she was in Star Trek - ugly woman, apt to kill you soon as look at you



I thought it was my daughter's last boyfriend's mother-I think he was called Cling-on! (well according to her anyway)

10.       sonunda
5004 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:52 pm

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to the Press=
- Obama will win the election.
- Some Americans say that obama is the first black to run, some American don't believe Obama will be able to live up to his promises.After all, compared to hillary, he has no experience as antithesis.



Does anyone else have a clue what he's on about?

11.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:53 pm

what has this to do with Turkey? (off topic)

12.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:56 pm

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to the Press=
- Obama will win the election.
- Some Americans say that obama is the first black to run, some American don't believe Obama will be able to live up to his promises.After all, compared to hillary, he has no experience as antithesis.



Does anyone else have a clue what he's on about?



Or even what he's on? Were the Antithesis from outer space like the Klingons?

13.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:57 pm

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to the Press=
- Obama will win the election.
- Some Americans say that obama is the first black to run, some American don't believe Obama will be able to live up to his promises.After all, compared to hillary, he has no experience as antithesis.



At least with Hillary we knew what we were getting. Obama has no experience what so ever..If the same supporters for Obama show up on voting day, he may have a slight chance. But as history as shown the minorities and our youth don't show up for voting day.

14.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:58 pm

No comment!

15.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:58 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

what has this to do with Turkey? (off topic)



Thanks Ros - too busy being sarcastic to notice - you are right. Moving to off-topic.

16.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 04:12 pm

so I hope I can join you for coffee - break, my pleasure

17.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:16 pm

I still prefer Obama over Hillary, he's the best out of the worst if you ask me.

18.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:30 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I still prefer Obama over Hillary, he's the best out of the worst if you ask me.



I don't like either, but I'm curious why do you prefer Obama over Hillary?

19.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:42 pm

Quoting teaschip:

I don't like either, but I'm curious why do you prefer Obama over Hillary?



To be honest I couldnt sum up here my reasons, but hope it suffices that all the times I read their statements in the newspapers, I felt Obama has more potential than Hillary. Actually, if it would a public announced fact that Hillary would become president but that actually Bill would do all the work, I would immediately vote for Hillary though. But I dont see her as fit and competent to be a president. first, I decided it had to be her, just because she is a woman. But after comparing her plans to obama's, I guess I must have liked him more.

But to be honest I dont care who it is, as long as it is not McCain! He is a danger for the USA

20.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:49 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting teaschip:

I don't like either, but I'm curious why do you prefer Obama over Hillary?



To be honest I couldnt sum up here my reasons, but hope it suffices that all the times I read their statements in the newspapers, I felt Obama has more potential than Hillary. Actually, if it would a public announced fact that Hillary would become president but that actually Bill would do all the work, I would immediately vote for Hillary though. But I dont see her as fit and competent to be a president. first, I decided it had to be her, just because she is a woman. But after comparing her plans to obama's, I guess I must have liked him more.

But to be honest I dont care who it is, as long as it is not McCain! He is a danger for the USA



McCain a danger to the U.S.? What about Obama stating he would attack Pakistan? So we need to invade another country? And if you think our ecomony is declining, just wait until Obama stepps in. Like I said at least with Hillary we know what we are getting. Obama is the real danger for the U.S. and all of our 57 states.

21.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:53 pm

Quoting teaschip:

What about Obama stating he would attack Pakistan?



Oh I must have missed that part by the time I got bored of reading about YOUR elections in MY newspaper EVERY day

But a republican?

22.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 07:52 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting teaschip:

What about Obama stating he would attack Pakistan?



Oh I must have missed that part by the time I got bored of reading about YOUR elections in MY newspaper EVERY day

But a republican?



Then YOU also know your government was supporting a Republican..Huckabee and YES it does get boring......

23.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:11 pm

Quoting teaschip:


Then YOU also know your government was supporting a Republican..Huckabee and YES it does get boring......




Well, I don't support my government

24.       catwoman
8933 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:05 pm

Quoting teaschip:

McCain a danger to the U.S.? What about Obama stating he would attack Pakistan? So we need to invade another country? And if you think our ecomony is declining, just wait until Obama stepps in. Like I said at least with Hillary we know what we are getting. Obama is the real danger for the U.S. and all of our 57 states.


I have also been skeptical about Obama, but I can't help liking him the most. At least he makes sense when he speaks, he's very intelligent and he is at least standing up for the middle class, and not for the billioners. Obama seems very rational and down to earth and he's not doing as much trash-talk in order to appeal to some primitive feelings, like nationalism. He offers intelligent solutions.
I didn't hear Obama say that he'd attack Pakistan, but he also didn't say that we will stay in Iraq for another 100 years (till the oil supplies last). At least he's bringing some kind of new outlook on things. I'm sick and tired of the fear mongering about Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan... whereas our ally - Pakistan is home to more radicals then the rest of the Middle East. Of course, war is out of question, especially that all it takes to solve the middle east problem is to pull out of Iraq and stop supporting Israeli invasion of Palestine.
As far as his experience - I think this whole experience in Washington is completely overrated. The guy is 46 and did politics all his life, seems good enough to me. How much experience did Bush have that he managed to screw everything up. Also, every president has a whole army of advisers, so I really don't get what this whole mess about Obama's experience is all about (of course other then meaningless attacks that only divert attention from real issues).

25.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:15 pm

I don't like or support war but I can not like or support a candidate whose very church supports hatred. Obama is a great speaker...but there isn't much behind the rhetoric. Just my thoughts..

26.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:29 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I don't like or support war but I can not like or support a candidate whose very church supports hatred.




As far as I know he left the church and firmly said that the hatred spread from Wright (as he claims he hadnt heard before..) should be stopped

27.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 12:11 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Elisabeth:

I don't like or support war but I can not like or support a candidate whose very church supports hatred.




As far as I know he left the church and firmly said that the hatred spread from Wright (as he claims he hadnt heard before..) should be stopped




Yeah...it was quite an embarrassment for him...but that was after going there week after week for years....hummm...makes you wonder...well, it makes me wonder.

28.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 01:14 am

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to the Press=
- Obama will win the election.
- Some Americans say that obama is the first black to run, some American don't believe Obama will be able to live up to his promises.After all, compared to hillary, he has no experience as antithesis.



Does anyone else have a clue what he's on about?


Here, you can explore his website.

Barack Obama, issues

29.       lady in red
6947 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 01:24 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to the Press=
- Obama will win the election.
- Some Americans say that obama is the first black to run, some American don't believe Obama will be able to live up to his promises.After all, compared to hillary, he has no experience as antithesis.



Does anyone else have a clue what he's on about?


Here, you can explore his website.

Barack Obama, issues



I think Sonunda was referring to yilgun-7 not Obama! lol

30.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 01:31 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

I don't like or support war but I can not like or support a candidate whose very church supports hatred. Obama is a great speaker...but there isn't much behind the rhetoric. Just my thoughts..


I also think that it is somewhat worriesome that he had been affiliated with that church and that priest for such a long time... :-S That Wright guy does seem like a bit of a psycho, but I'm wondering how exactly would he be able to affect Obama. He said that AIDS was invented to infect black people - I am sure that Obama doesn't believe this, it's too stupid. He's an educated man, born to a white mother, I'm sure he has much more healthy and reasonable views on race.
Wright also said that America is the biggest terrorist country... well, a lot of highly educated people (like Chomsky) say the same thing. America is very violent towards other countries, has always supported cruel dictators whenever it was to their benefit, exploited countries that are weaker... etc. Still, this kind of talk is not acceptable of course, we need intelligent solutions and I think Obama is capable of them.
On the other hand, I'm not sure how important Wright is in the black community, maybe Obama joined that church to gain popularity among African Americans?

I think that if I evaluated all the things that the priests had ever said in the church where I grew up, I'd find a lot of problematic ideas as well. I'm not justifying Obama here, in fact, I find it very troublesome that he did belong to that church... these are just my thoughts.

31.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 01:32 am

For anyone interested, here are the official websites of the most probable winning candidates for US President listed in alphabetical order

Barack Obama on issues

John McCain on issues

32.       lady in red
6947 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 10:55 am

Quoting alameda:

For anyone interested, here are the official websites of the most probable winning candidates for US President listed in alphabetical order

Barack Obama on issues

John McCain on issues



So it's pretty much certain to be one of these two then?

33.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 12:49 am

I hate politics and politicians!!! Let's vote for anarchy!

political corruption - Democracy Now!

34.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 08:38 am

Quoting catwoman:

I hate politics and politicians!!! Let's vote for anarchy!

political corruption - Democracy Now!


I got a shirt in Washington DC a few years ago. It has my favorite saying...."stop bitching, start a revolution!".

35.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 08:39 am

Quoting lady in red:


So it's pretty much certain to be one of these two then?


Yes, it will be one of the two.

36.       lady in red
6947 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 10:43 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting lady in red:


So it's pretty much certain to be one of these two then?


Yes, it will be one of the two.



I do hope you realised my tongue was in my cheek there!!!

37.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 03:58 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting lady in red:


So it's pretty much certain to be one of these two then?


Yes, it will be one of the two.



I do hope you realised my tongue was in my cheek there!!!


Ummmmmmmmm, I plead day 6 of conference attendance....my brain is full.

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