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EURO 2008 SEMI FINAL - TURKEY VS. GERMANY
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80.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 03:56 am

The armies of the Ottoman Empire could not conquer Vienna. Eleven soccer players from Turkey can.
That's the way many Turks feel, a heady, near-mystical sense that Turkey's underdog run to the European Championship semifinals involves more than goal scoring. To these fans, it's about pride and patriotism; ethnic identity and insecurity; centuries of conflict and coexistence; and the prickly, modern-day relationship between Turks and the West.

"There is an unwritten condition here in this country, the desire to show to the world what the Turks can do as a soft power," said Huseyin Bagci, a Turkish academic. "The Turks are bringing a new flair to Europe. It's like putting something spicy into food."

But it's not just us versus them. The team has showcased Turkish skill, tenacity and — even the most fanatic of fans grudgingly admit — mind-bending luck in comeback wins against the Swiss, Czechs and Croats.

Turkey's opponent in Basel, Switzerland, on Wednesday is Germany, home to nearly 3 million Turks, some of whom moved there as "gastarbeiter," or guest workers, for low-paying jobs in the 1960s. Two of Turkey's top players, Hamit Altintop and Hakan Balta, grew up in Germany, came through Germany's soccer system and play for Bundesliga teams.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,700237673,00.html

81.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 04:08 am

Cold Turkey as Germany jumps for joy

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2008/June/25/cold-turkey-as-germany-jumps-for-joy

82.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 08:57 am

83.       mltm
3690 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 10:45 am

Quoting gernas:



i think it s been good for humanity that turkey has at last been eliminated, a very late conclusion though...



I think Turkey has stayed in Euro long enough to show people like you its presence in Europe and in football.

84.       KeithL
1455 posts
 26 Jun 2008 Thu 11:59 pm

Quoting sonunda:

The BBC are saying that they have nothing but admiration for the Turks and Germany really didn't deserve to win!



BBC has to slam Germany of course. This is their nature. Did Team England enjoy watching the game on television??

Germany is loaded with talent. Hoping they can put off a very entertaining Espana Team and win it all.
Go Deutschland!!!

85.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Jun 2008 Fri 03:08 am

Gernas, kindly send me the link which states "23 injured and 3 murdered".
Not here:

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=586978

86.       lady in red
6947 posts
 27 Jun 2008 Fri 08:55 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Gernas, kindly send me the link which states "23 injured and 3 murdered".
Not here:

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=586978

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Gernas was referring to the Turkey v Croatia game Ros, not the Turkey v Germany game.

Quoting Gernas:

cos turks kill or injure whether they win or lose... (23 injured 3 murdered after the match with croatia, which they WON)



but I agree he should have posted a link to this information.

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