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What is wrong with Muslims?
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1.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 01:01 am

Contrary to popular belief, it is rather clear that the majority of Muslims who are labeled as 'moderate', are not really moderate at all, they support (silently or not) Muslim domination, separation, condemnation for western values of freedom and equality... etc. There is a video about Londonistan and one Muslim man wrote this underneath:

"hahahah this video shows how we muslims r taking over city by city., we have already taken over the capital city and we r going to kill any white kafirs make any move on muslim, let me remind u about 7/7 hahahaah we will bomb all u wanker, go fuk ur mum,sister,daughter, or wotever u guys like doing u kafirs "

Look at the profound hatred that is expressed in this comment from this young, 25-year old man. He is not isolated in his opinions! How can something like this be tolerated, both by Westerners in whose countries such people live and by fellow Muslims who claim to believe in love and peace... ?

2.       KeithL
1455 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 01:37 am

I could find you lots of weirdos in the states too canim who preach white-protestant superiority. Its not always a pretty world...dimi???

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 01:38 am

Quoting KeithL:

I could find you lots of weirdos in the states too canim who preach white-protestant superiority. Its not always a pretty world...dimi???


I completely agree, but don't you feel like they are somewhat less threatening?

4.       KeithL
1455 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 01:40 am

No...Eastern hatred and western hatred are equal I'm afraid.
As is their respective stupidity...
I don't want to turn this into a one-upsmanship in hatred, but in particular, the white men in Texas that drug a black man to death from the back of their truck as his body came apart...this was my realization that humanity has no limitations on evil...

5.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 02:14 am

Quoting KeithL:

No...Eastern hatred and western hatred are equal I'm afraid.
As is their respective stupidity...
I don't want to turn this into a one-upsmanship in hatred, but in particular, the white men in Texas that drug a black man to death from the back of their truck as his body came apart...this was my realization that humanity has no limitations on evil...



Sad but true * 1001
and I won't add to the long list of one ugly hateful incidents that can be done here.

It can be done by peoples from any group to all things...like those who hurt innocent animals and destroy the environment and all that is in it.

Sometimes I really think the word humanity is wasted on humans. They seem to show the least humane activities of all the creatures much too often.

6.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 05:15 am

Quoting KeithL:

No...Eastern hatred and western hatred are equal I'm afraid.
As is their respective stupidity...



+100000

i suppose the white supremacists may seem "less threatening" because for the most part they have gone underground, or their crimes aren't reported as much in the media these days, they haven't reared their ugly head so to speak.

i read in the seattle times i think it was, that there is a growing swell of membership to white supremacist groups in america via online sites, due to barack obama being nominated for presidential candidacy.

7.       lovebug
280 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 05:54 am

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting KeithL:

No...Eastern hatred and western hatred are equal I'm afraid.
As is their respective stupidity...



+100000

i suppose the white supremacists may seem "less threatening" because for the most part they have gone underground, or their crimes aren't reported as much in the media these days, they haven't reared their ugly head so to speak.

i read in the seattle times i think it was, that there is a growing swell of membership to white supremacist groups in america via online sites, due to barack obama being nominated for presidential candidacy.



I also believe with the economy failing we will see more "attendance" in these groups. Very scary!!

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 06:10 am

That is all horrible, but how does it minimize the hatred of Muslims, such as the one in the message above? And we know that radicals in Europe are above criticism and law.

9.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 07:19 am

i don't think it minimises muslim hatred at all, more pointing out that hate everywhere is the same, regardless of east or west.

not that i am supporting the post you refer to, but could it be a macho response to all the racist posts below it that are directed at muslims?

honestly, some of the comments made about videos on youtube are generally vile, racist, and sexist.

10.       teaschip
3870 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 03:26 pm

I don't think your comparing apples to apples when referring to white supremacists. They do exist, however they are an isolated group of individuals.

I think the question arises from Islam even "moderate Islam" do they really believe in religous freedom?

A couple examples which sometimes raises my doubts..

Muslim women who convert to Christianity are prohibited from marrying Christian men, while children of converts are regarded as Muslims and educated as Muslims. Even in death, converts must be buried as Muslims.

Preaching on Saudi state television from the holy mosque in Medina, Shaykh Salah Bin-Muhammad al-Budayr hailed Ramadan, concluding his sermon (according to a translation at www.imra.org.il): "O God, support Islam and Muslims and destroy the enemies of Islam, including Jews, Christians and atheists. . . . O God, deal with the Jews for they are within your power. . . O God, shake the land under their feet, instill fear in their hearts and make them a booty for Muslims and a lesson to others."

Such sermonizing is quite common in the Muslim world. It may show a commitment to something, but religious freedom?



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