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What is wrong with Muslims?
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 08:58 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting peacetrain: Geezz!
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Quoting catwoman: Geeezzz!!! |
I know I haven't been here much lately, but is this the new TC "buzz" word?   |
It is going to become a TC buzz word soon... as they all start copying me... :-S
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:00 pm |
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Quoting peacetrain: Catwoman is asking the question "What's wrong with Islam?" . . . "I ask What's wrong with the world today that we are all at each others' throats and don't let issues drop?" Geezz!
OK I'm letting it drop |
+1
(I hope when you say that you're letting it drop, you also include your cheerleading activities)
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:07 pm |
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Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: So, you think that only China is reprehensible for its crimes or Arabs too? Or, do you think that one justifies the other? |
"Daydreamer, I think the point here is the same as of anything else - sharing information."
We are just sharing information..
As catwoman is saying here : http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31431_14 |
Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: Sharing information is a good thing, no doubt about it. Yet, I see a huge difference between how members react to what is being told about their countries/fellow-believers. |
"if you don't like it, you always have a choice"
( as you said here ; http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31666 )
Also ;
"live with it"
( as you said here;
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31666_2 )
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Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: I know about that. Also, like I've said before, I have all the right to express my opinion  You may bark up every tree saying what you don't like and so can everybody else - it's a public forum |
no comment. |
Uykusuz... did you not find anything you can quote out of context for the last reply?
You lose the right to demand understanding if you act this simplistic and completely lacking understanding of the topic and even a tinge of self criticism. You are prejudiced and act on your feelings. Don't expect any better from others then! Be aware that you harvest what you grow.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:17 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: So, you think that only China is reprehensible for its crimes or Arabs too? Or, do you think that one justifies the other? |
"Daydreamer, I think the point here is the same as of anything else - sharing information."
We are just sharing information..
As catwoman is saying here : http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31431_14 |
Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: Sharing information is a good thing, no doubt about it. Yet, I see a huge difference between how members react to what is being told about their countries/fellow-believers. |
"if you don't like it, you always have a choice"
( as you said here ; http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31666 )
Also ;
"live with it"
( as you said here;
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31666_2 )
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Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting Daydreamer: I know about that. Also, like I've said before, I have all the right to express my opinion You may bark up every tree saying what you don't like and so can everybody else - it's a public forum |
no comment. |
Uykusuz... did you not find anything you can quote out of context for the last reply?
You lose the right to demand understanding if you act this simplistic and completely lacking understanding of the topic and even a tinge of self criticism. You are prejudiced and act on your feelings. Don't expect any better from others then! Be aware that you harvest what you grow. |
if you're not happy with those answers, then you are not happy with yourselves. When i try to talk to you, you're saying "the wrong answer i posted was part of a game, coz you were not serious". See i m posting your answers, and you make yourself crazy...
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:18 pm |
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Quoting uYkuSuz:
if you're not happy with those answers, then you are not happy with yourselves. When i try to talk to you, you're saying "the wrong answer i posted was part of a game, coz you were not serious". See i m posting your answers, and you make yourself crazy... |
 
no comment (hahaha, sorry, couldn't resist that!  )
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:22 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting uYkuSuz:
if you're not happy with those answers, then you are not happy with yourselves. When i try to talk to you, you're saying "the wrong answer i posted was part of a game, coz you were not serious". See i m posting your answers, and you make yourself crazy... |
no comment (hahaha, sorry, couldn't resist that! ) |
Well... clearly we have different concepts of what a conversation is. Your original post and everything after that is meant to attack me, but you don't count that, right? You only expect to take, not much to give - in this case, it's 'understanding' of the other person's point of view. You simply want me to accept what you say.
Catwoman, you are getting irrational. I said that thing as part of your own game, ok? If you were serious and honest, I'd reply in the same manner, but you were not! Geeezzz!!!
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 10:28 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Sharing information is a good thing, no doubt about it. Yet, I see a huge difference between how members react to what is being told about their countries/fellow-believers. If you give info about US/EU soldiers raping a child, everybody (including US/EU members) are appalled and demand justice for them. If we discuss honour killings, enforced minor-old pervert marriages, Muslims in this site (Alameda in particular) say that info is either a Jewish intelligence manipulation or goes back to 16th century Europe saying it was similar then. |
That is NOT what I said, and I very much object to your misrepresentation in what I actually did say. What I did say is that your presenting the Islamic world in such a way is not true. I pointed out the fact that while there may be some extreme cases where such incidents exist, they are very much in the minority, and similar cases can be found in the West.
Interesting, marriage age in Poland for a female is 16 (with parental consent) Actually 16 is a common age for females in Europe. FYI here is a list of marriageable ages.
Marriage age
Yes there are those who go outside of these rules, but they are not condoned or encouraged. If I show the fact that outrageous incidents happen in the West as well, you seem to think it's irrelevant. I disagree, we are discussing something related to human behavior here. In that case incidents such as the FLDS
child brides
Quoting Daydreamer: It is not that we don't see flaws in our countries, we've often criticised their policies and some customs. It is this 'we're pure as snow' attitude of some members here that worry/disgust us. |
Yes, it disgusts me too....
Quoting Daydreamer: I don't know what is wrong with admitting that Turkey/Islam have problems that should be solved. If Turks/Muslims don't see it then this world will never be a better place. |
Likewise for the West. I think Turkey and Muslims can do just fine without outside meddling.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 10:45 pm |
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Interesting fact:
Muslims feel they are victims - they have been attacked by the US, Israel and Britain for centuries.
Take every single conflict...Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Chechnya and the British Empire to name a few.
Yet.... MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY MUSLIMS than by any conflict with the US, Israel and Britain put together. In fact, more than any Christian country.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 10:53 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Interesting fact:
Muslims feel they are victims - they have been attacked by the US, Israel and Britain for centuries.
Take every single conflict...Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Chechnya and the British Empire to name a few.
Yet.... MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY MUSLIMS than by any conflict with the US, Israel and Britain put together. In fact, more than any Christian country.
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This couldn't possibly be true! Where is your link...where is your proof. Stop giving us all these "FACTS"!! 
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 10:55 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Interesting fact:
Muslims feel they are victims - they have been attacked by the US, Israel and Britain for centuries.
Take every single conflict...Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Chechnya and the British Empire to name a few.
Yet.... MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY MUSLIMS than by any conflict with the US, Israel and Britain put together. In fact, more than any Christian country.
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This couldn't possibly be true! Where is your link...where is your proof. Stop giving us all these "FACTS"!! |
It is true. So much for the "murdering west"
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 11:01 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Interesting fact:
Muslims feel they are victims - they have been attacked by the US, Israel and Britain for centuries.
Take every single conflict...Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Chechnya and the British Empire to name a few.
Yet.... MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY MUSLIMS than by any conflict with the US, Israel and Britain put together. In fact, more than any Christian country.
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This couldn't possibly be true! Where is your link...where is your proof. Stop giving us all these "FACTS"!! |
It is true. So much for the "murdering west" |
Aren't you supposed to say "thank you"? Or do I have to say thank you?
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