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Atheism : Some Questions
1.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 01:30 pm

Atheists appear to have their 'sects' too! :

*Implicit and explicit atheism

*Weak and strong atheism

*Pragmatic atheism

*Theoretical atheism

*State atheism

Even atheism doesn't escape interpretation or misinterpretation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism (This page is by no means empty btw I was too lazy to look a more authoritative source so 'whistle stop wiki' will have to suffice)

Some points to discuss:

a) Do atheists think they have the moral high ground?
b) What drives an athiest?
c) Any atheist jokes or cartoons out there?
d) Is there such a thing as an enlightened atheist?
e) Is there such a thing as an 'evangelical' atheist?
f) Do atheists giving religion and God/s too much attention?
g) What are the rituals and traditions/customs of an atheist?
h) If there was no God (or should that be 'If there was no no God' ?, how would an atheist spend his/her time?
i) Was atheism founded by a man or a woman?
j) Do atheists use the term "Oh my God" (OMG) and if so, why?
k} Is there a difference between the culture and the belief system of an atheist?
l} If an atheist doesn't have a place of worship is the saying "my body is my temple" true for him/her?


Can anyone think of any more ultimate questions about atheists?

Please complete the following sentence:

'If a Christian is known as a Bible Thumper an Atheist is known as a ...'
(no offense intended toward Christians, I simply couldn't think of any other nicks in other faiths)

Feel free to be atheistist but keep it civilised

2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 01:48 pm

I'd gladly answer your post if it weren't for the fear of misunderstanding your joke again. Have I assumed correctly this time that the parallel between atheism and religion is on purpose?

3.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 02:06 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I'd gladly answer your post if it weren't for the fear of misunderstanding your joke again. Have I assumed correctly this time that the parallel between atheism and religion is on purpose?



Well it sort of began that way. I guess it's a little tongue in cheek with a serious twist. I learned some things whilst busying myself with this thread.

The UK governments Education Dept. want teachers to develop children's ability to ask questions (from age 5) and in RE, for children to ask ultimate questions. I guess this develops an enquiring mind. (I didn't just learn this btw )

I ask some light hearted questions, but in the hope that what will follow is an in depth discussion. You know how threads here take on a life of their own.

Be clear . . . my intention is not cynicism (oh I just had an idea for a new thread . . . ok don't worry, the feeling came and went), it's digging for grass roots knowledge with a light hearted and genial gardening fork. I like the idea of a fork rather than a spade . . . spades can do a lot of damage

4.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 03:07 pm

While I get that the word 'sect' was intended to be rather humorous, let me stay dead serious and use the term philosophy and its schools instead Just to cut off from religion.

Also, I am no philosopher, I am just trying to answer these questions the way I understand them, according to what i perceive to be atheism, or, the way I reason

Some points to discuss:

a) Do atheists think they have the moral high ground?

Atheists are brought up in a society and are subject to a legal system that governs it. Also, to a great extend their morality (or ethics if you prefer) is shaped culturally. The difference is that atheists decide what is moral and what isn't not against the will of a God, i.e. killing somebody is not morally reprehensible because God said so but because it is against the rules of a society and/or legal system.


b) What drives an athiest?
I'm not sure I understand this question. In what sense 'drives'? Or, what towards? If you mean why atheists live or what is their sense of life, then I'd say biological stimuli.

c) Any atheist jokes or cartoons out there?
Yeap, lots of - just google them

d) Is there such a thing as an enlightened atheist?
If in the sense educated, yes, if in the sense inspired by an upper creature - what upper creature?

e) Is there such a thing as an 'evangelical' atheist?
I don't get this one

f) Do atheists giving religion and God/s too much attention?
Everybody looking for their way has to give a subject s/he is to consider lots of attention. While you're seeking it's a must. Once you decide on an approach, you stop, especially if you've decided against believing in God. Actually, I think religious people are the ones who, by virtue of their religion, have to think about God. Atheists don't.

g) What are the rituals and traditions/customs of an atheist?
No customs, rituals or anything the like - it's not a religion, it's a way of understanding the world. Not a movement aiming to be a religious alternative.

h) If there was no God (or should that be 'If there was no no God' ?, how would an atheist spend his/her time?
Doing the contrary that they do now, they'd join a religious movement and tried to justify their existence by worshipping an idol

i) Was atheism founded by a man or a woman?
No idea

j) Do atheists use the term "Oh my God" (OMG) and if so, why?
Because it's a popular expression, an exclamation. Using it doesn't imply believing in God any more than saying holy crap.

k} Is there a difference between the culture and the belief system of an atheist?
Again, there is no belief system of an atheist, at least not in the sense of believing in something/somebody. Like I said in a) culture influences social act of an atheist that's why an atheist in a Muslim country will most likely not eat pork, while an atheist in Europe will use toilet paper rather than his hand. Still, they'd be doing it not because God said so.

l} If an atheist doesn't have a place of worship is the saying "my body is my temple" true for him/her?
Again, an attempt to make a semantic joke

I think that the basic difference between an atheist and a religious person is the reason why they act (many a time in the same way). Religious people believe that they have a mission God assigned them. Atheists don't believe in it. Religious people may help others hoping for a reward in the afterlife, atheists would help because of empathy and/or social custom. Religious people look for the sense of life in a promise of afterlife, atheists come to terms with the fact that this life is as good as it gets. You're born, you live, procreate and then die.

5.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 11 Jul 2008 Fri 02:04 pm

I've deleted this post for the simple reason, I spent ages on it and made a real mess of all the quotes !!!!!! Boxes everywhere!!!!!

6.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 11 Jul 2008 Fri 02:36 pm

I can only assume this whole thread is a joke?

It is strange how some people are so unable to imagine a life without religion that they even try to turn a conscious personal decision into yet another belief "system" with followers!

Stick to lecturing people about tolerance and peace PEACETRAIN...

7.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Jul 2008 Fri 03:00 pm

Esp for PT, an atheist joke:

Two nuns are passing two death metal fans
-These two have never seen a shower, I reckon - says one nun
-What's a shower? - asks one metal fan another one
-No idea, I'm a non-believer

8.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Jul 2008 Fri 03:10 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

I can only assume this whole thread is a joke?

It is strange how some people are so unable to imagine a life without religion that they even try to turn a conscious personal decision into yet another belief "system" with followers!

Stick to lecturing people about tolerance and peace PEACETRAIN...



Agree one hunderd percent - I don't have a problem with reglious people until they try and preach to me! I made my mind up when I was still a child as to what I did and did not believe in, and nothing has ever swayed me to change my mind.

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