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Catwoman, you should not be an admin here.
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1.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 02:25 am

Catwoman ;

After these cases below,i dont know how can you be here without any shame. So i think you should not be an admin here anymore. As an user, no problem. But unlike the other admins, as an admin, you´re the only problem here.

A person that comes here to get an information about Turkey or Islam and who is not familiar with Turkish culture and Islam will think that Turks are the worst nation of the world and Islam is the worst religion of the world which is completely wrong ( especially after reading your posts/topics). I also dont think that you have an aim like understanding Turkish/Islam culture even you´re married a Kurdish guy. What i see from here is you are insulting Turks/Islam and you are not sorry for that. As many people have warned you and you dont wanna understand I want you to understand now and i think you better use here as an user, not as an admin. its better for you to do it now,before people start to hate you and leave here.

Regards

Insulting Muslims;
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31431
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31431_14
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_6


Turks committed genocide ?? ( kurds & armaniens )
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31640

uykusuz´s case;
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_7

thehandsome´s case
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31608_3

Canli´s case
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_6
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_8

Alameda´s case
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31431_14

after all these again ; -new one!
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_31824

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 03:02 am

Uykusuz, I can see that you disagree with me on most topics and my ideas seem blasphemous to you, but I have the right to express my views, just like a regular member. A duty of an admin is maintenance work according to outlined rules and it doesn't require one to have specific political views. My views are not official views of Turkish Class.

People who come here, they judge Islam and Turkey by people's actions more then some people's opinions. So don't be so over-concerned that my personal views will change someone's opinions about Turkey or Islam.

3.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 03:10 am

Administrators have just as much right to voice an opinion as anyone else that uses this site. Why are you so afraid of anyone voicing an OPINION just because it doesn’t happen to jibe with yours? Do you think people are so weak that they can’t make decisions on their own, that we have to follow what someone else thinks? Ridiculous!
Think for yourself and stop worrying so much about what others think!

4.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 03:40 am

Quoting catwoman:

Uykusuz, I can see that you disagree with me on most topics and my ideas seem blasphemous to you, but I have the right to express my views, just like a regular member. A duty of an admin is maintenance work according to outlined rules and it doesn't require one to have specific political views. My views are not official views of Turkish Class.

People who come here, they judge Islam and Turkey by people's actions more then some people's opinions. So don't be so over-concerned that my personal views will change someone's opinions about Turkey or Islam.



I m not the only one disagree with you on most topics that's also one of the things that you dont understand-That's why i showed you the other cases-. And you're not expressing your ideas, you're insulting. it's different, finding silly videos/posts against turks and islam and posting them is not the way of expressing yourself.It's the way of attacking/insulting.

And When you express yourself you should start your sentence with "i think.... " if you're not sure "i m not sure but for me.." you're posting like everything is true.

saying "Turks killed 50.000 people. Proof is here."
and saying "Is it true? Turks killed 50.000 people,according to this video." is different.

saying "A stupid guy's post"
and saying "What's wrong with muslims" is also different.

You know this very well, for to escape from this now you're saying :

" People who come here, they judge Islam and Turkey by people's actions more then some people's opinions."

You dont respect, you insult, are you also waiting for our respect ?

How can new visitors understand that you're not muslim and turk? Let's say you created a topic which is wrong about islam, A new visitor will think that you're a turk and muslim and you said that. Guess what does he think when he read that ?

Also ; being an admin makes you more trusted, also when you make mistakes,its price will be greater than anybody else's price thats why i suggest you to use here as an user. You know i have never seen a president that says "christinaty is better than islam" Think about it why a president does not say such a sentence, even he thinks so ?

5.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 03:45 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Administrators have just as much right to voice an opinion as anyone else that uses this site. Why are you so afraid of anyone voicing an OPINION just because it doesn’t happen to jibe with yours? Do you think people are so weak that they can’t make decisions on their own, that we have to follow what someone else thinks? Ridiculous!
Think for yourself and stop worrying so much about what others think!


I dont wanna say it again and again,
Read the previous post of mine which is above.
also you can read this post of me
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_7

Regards.

6.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 04:34 am

Quoting uYkuSuz:


I dont wanna say it again and again,


Then I guess this will be the last we can expect to hear on the topic from you.

Quoting uYkuSuz:


Read the previous post of mine which is above.
also you can read this post of me
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_7

Regards.


I've been a member long enough to know who says what and the difference between you and me...and most of the members here...is that I form my own opinions. I'm not forming my beliefs on the basis of what you say or cat says or anyone else here.
It's too bad you can't understand that just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a bad person.
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you?

7.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 05:17 am

Quoting girleegirl:


I've been a member long enough to know who says what and the difference between you and me...and most of the members here...is that I form my own opinions. I'm not forming my beliefs on the basis of what you say or cat says or anyone else here.


You know this is what the problem is.
( Read my postS again at http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_7 )
I m also too old here, older than you. For me there is no difference between you and me. But for you and cat woman there is a difference between us. When you insult and post whatever you want there is no problem, when we explain and try to tell you the truth, you dont listen you're just saying "there is difference between us" or " you're not not such a person " .. there is no such a person as you see from the examples..

Quoting girleegirl:


It's too bad you can't understand that just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a bad person.
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you?


my reply is ;
" It's too bad you can't understand that just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a bad person.
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you? "

It's my opinions about catwoman, why should it concern you ? Your reply here is also a proof of my first paragraph and what the problem is.

8.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 08:14 am

Quoting uYkuSuz:


You know this is what the problem is.
( Read my postS again at http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_31545_7 )
I m also too old here, older than you. For me there is no difference between you and me. But for you and cat woman there is a difference between us. When you insult and post whatever you want there is no problem, when we explain and try to tell you the truth, you dont listen you're just saying 'there is difference between us' or ' you're not not such a person ' .. there is no such a person as you see from the examples..


Well apparently you don’t really pay attention. You seem to think that just because I am defending cat’s right to state her opinion and remain an administrator of a site that would not even exsist without her, that I then must agree with her opinions. Since I rarely post on any political or religious threads, I think you would have a hard time defending that!

And by the way, what makes your opinion any more truthful than hers?

Quoting uYkuSuz:

Quoting girleegirl:


It's too bad you can't understand that just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a bad person.
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you?


my reply is ;
' It's too bad you can't understand that just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them a bad person.
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you? '

It's my opinions about catwoman, why should it concern you ?


Well my mistake, you see since you didn't start your post with "in my opinion" I thought what you were posting was fact!!

Quoting uYkuSuz:


Your reply here is also a proof of my first paragraph and what the problem is.



HUH? What proof??? :-S

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:58 am

I see no reason for Cat not to be an admin here. Admins are free to express their points of view and to share their opinions regardless of whether other users like them or not. I believe TC is mildly moderated anyway. In all other forums whose member I am, no discussion with Admin is allowed. Their words and decisions are final. Here you're free to criticise Cat's opinions just as she is free to criticise yours. If you don't like it, you always have a choice, there's plenty of forums that praise the beaches, food and weather.

This is not an official Turkish Republic or Islamic website so why do you fear people will have a negative image of Turkey or Islam after reading this site? It is a free place - read, don't read, write, don't write, agree, disagree - we're all free to do it as long as we discuss ideas, not personal life of other members. If I consider somebody's ideas racist, bigoted or even stupid, why can't I write it here if I can provide arguments? What is unacceptable is asking questions or statements about husbands, children or lovers of other users as that has nothing to do with what they think. You disagree with Cat? You have all the right in the world to do that, but don't tell her she has no right to write her opinions on her own forum.

10.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 12:12 pm

Quoting girleegirl:


Well apparently you don’t really pay attention. You seem to think that just because I am defending cat’s right to state her opinion and remain an administrator of a site that would not even exsist without her, that I then must agree with her opinions. Since I rarely post on any political or religious threads, I think you would have a hard time defending that!

And by the way, what makes your opinion any more truthful than hers?


Cause after reading your posts, You're proving that im right. Curious why you deleted there was also a post that says i m right, can you see it now?- NO.. But all your posts are here. Why?

Quoting girleegirl:


Well my mistake, you see since you didn't start your post with "in my opinion" I thought what you were posting was fact!!


I dont wanna say it again and again, Read my posts carefully till you undrestand.
You're not reading my posts i said "i think" and
Read my first post again and count the "i think"s..
Again your posts are my proof, Why cant you say that you're sorry if you're misunderstood ? Instead, you re acting like her adulatory who is also trying to be a smart-azz.

And a great writer said ;
Everyone has their own foundation for their opinions. Why should it concern you?

It's my opinions about catwoman, why should it concern you ?

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