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1.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 02:50 pm

I wonder if anyone can explain something to me.

 

I was recently having a discussion with a Turkish friend of mine and she mentioned she had been able to retire earlier than she had thought.  The reason she gave was, after she graduated she married and started a family straight away, so did not work. However she gave her ´details´ to a friend who was in need of a job and, it seems, the contributions this friend put into my friend´s retirement fund (I don´t know what it´s called in Turkey) for those few years were  eventually of benefit to my friend.  

 

A few days later my friend´s daughter came home from work in an angry mood.  She had quite an argument with her mother and father.  Father and daughter are both engineers in the family building business and it seems a distant relative had approached the father, asking if they could have the daughter´s C.V. so they could apply for an engineering job they wanted (even though they had an engineering qualification of their own).  The daughter was adamant that she did not want to hand her C.V. over and her parents were not very happy with her view.  I didn´t understand the finer points but felt sympathy for the daughter.  My friend said it was common to do this in Turkey and that her daughter was over reacting.  She also said her daughter would receive more pension years as a result.

 

It sounded very complicated to me and I´m still puzzled by it.  Firstly, is a C.V. in Turkey something different to my understanding of a C.V.?  Secondly . . . well secondly I´m totally confused by the whole thing! {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

modified:  Sorry, I´ve just realised I posted this in the wrong forum

2.       erdinc
2151 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:16 pm

The first case sounds like a woman who is not working was shown as employed by a friends family company. The company is supposed to pay the contributions to social security department. Therefore she paid the money to the company herself and they send the money to the social security department. The reason they are doing this is because we have recently changed laws regarding retirement.

 

In the 80´s a woman could retire after 20 years employment. Therefore people could retire at the age of 38. Since the governments realised that this wasn´t a very good thing to do, since the 80´s they are trying to postpone the retirement age. There have been some changes to the law before over the years. I think the final change means that woman can´t retire before the age of 60 and man 65. So they are just trying to walk around the new law changes.

 

The second issue sounds to me like they are asking for the doughders diploma.  It is not a CV. In some fields you need to employ qualified people. For instance in construction field you need construction engineers and architects and they need to sign the projects. Smillarly a pharmacy can be opened only by a person who graduated from that department. On the pther hand even though it is illegal they are graduates who are selling their diplomas usage rights. So, basically you pay somebody some money to use their qualified status and trick the official departments.

 

In Turkia almost nothing that needs to be checked is checked. Nearly all official departments are crap and corruption is higher than ever. This is even true for department that are related to heath and safety.

3.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:56 pm

Thank you for your time Erdinc.  Now you mention the diploma, I remember that is what the relative wanted and my friend did try to explain something about being able to sign for things.  Still, I think the daughter is right to refuse, something drastic could happen to a building the other person signed for and that could have serious consequences.

 

As for the first case, it happened in 1983 and my friend retired a few years ago, I think she is in her mid 40s now and is retired after some years working as a high school teacher, once her daughter was a little older.

 

Thanks again.

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