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20.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 08:23 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 But the worst thing you could do, is leave your wife for another women.  You need to leave her for yourself and yourself only.

 

 

 I agree with this.  I don´t think men are as strong as women. They seem to need someone to move on to before leaving a relationship.  My friend calls them pram hoppers.

21.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 08:48 am

 

Quoting peacetrain

I don´t think men are as strong as women. They seem to need someone to move on to before leaving a relationship.  My friend calls them pram hoppers.

 

Has nothing to do with strength, it´s pure convenience.

22.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 09:35 am

JKK, if you feel you have tried to make your marriage work and all to no avail, staying with your wife only for the sake of children is a bad choice. Your wife deserves respect and your being honest with her. If i learnt that my husband is with me only because of children, it would be worse to bear than learning he wants to divorce me. People change and 15 years is a long time, it does happen that two people do not progrress at the same pace and, in effect, they can´t keep up with each other. That´s life.

 

Good luck

23.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 01:01 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

so because you married her for 15 yrs she s old news and you have to move on? So??If she isa  good wife and mother so i leave her because ive been "MARRIED FOR 15 YRS?" And afetr another 15 yrs will you get tired from your turkish lady? That really is no excuse and yes this is life and you made a choice to marry this women, and to stay with her, not to leave her so easily, because this is life we have to keep thing sfresh,out with the old and in with the new?really im spaeking here as your daughter, since i am as old her, this is whats probably going on in her mind. I guess youre right, some people choose to selfish in life, and some people take the consequences of their actions and choices, but please dont be amd at me, this is only an opinion, pkease dont forget about your kids, your wife see what they think?!?!How this will affect them? anyway like is aid this si obly an opinion and im sure many others will tell you different things, but in the end its between you and your concious.

 

 Doudi - you amaze me! {#lang_emotions_flowers}{#lang_emotions_flowers}{#lang_emotions_flowers}

24.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 01:38 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Has nothing to do with strength, it´s pure convenience.

 

 IYO    

 

 Many women (and men) stay in unhappy marriages because they don´t have the self belief/strength of mind/confidence to make a new life for themselves alone.  IMO, although still a difficult decision for many, leaving a marriage for another partner is an easier option/better incentive, although I don´t think the majority of people deliberately stay in an unhappy marriage until someone better comes along.

 

Of course I do believe it needs a great deal of work , from both parties, to make their marriage work and I´m not advocating people walk away at the first sign of trouble - generally speaking that is, because there are always some incidents that should never be tolerated within a marriage.

 

There are so many scenarios, but in JKK´s case, I wonder if he realised his marriage was unhappy before or after he met the Turkish lady.  Perhaps he went looking for someone else because he was unhappy. Perhaps, in the first place, he escaped onto the internet in order to blank out his unhappiness.  I think there are many who enter into flirtatious liaison´s with people on the net, via chatrooms and even sites like this one.  This may seem harmless enough in itself, but this escapism doesn´t encourage dialogue between the married couple (where mutual decisions, in whatever direction, can be made).  I don´t remember how JKK met his Turkish lady btw.

 

Human nature is so diverse and unpredictable.

25.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 06:06 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Wow, Alameda! Your post is pretty judgmental!!! {#lang_emotions_ninja} Not very kind of you at all!!!! {#lang_emotions_noway}

Really, you are treating him like a child! Your tone is definitely inappropriate, even if you have a tinge of good advice.

 


Yes, it does sound that way. When one in a marriage things have a tendency to get hum drum. Meeting a thrilling new person can easily spark feelings of being "in love". The spouse can seem dowdy and dull in comparison. It´s easy to feel the new found love is "IT". However, most everything looses it´s sparkle after being confronted with daily life after time.


I think marriage is sacred and should not be dissolved easily. Certainly after having children and such a long time and at the time of live he is writing about, it looks suspicious. It is a well documented fact that around that age men often try to recapture their youth with a new model. It´s called the "mid-age crisis". Of course, this type of behavior is not limited to men.

Although you can get divorced, once you have children, you never really are divorced from the other parent. You are bound to them forever, like it or not. You will see so much of the other parent in your children.

Of course, there are times divorce is recommended, but I think these days it is resorted to much too quickly. What is to say in a few years he won´t fall in love with another newer model?

What does love mean? It sounds like what he is writing about here is that sort of teenage love. Being in a marriage for a long time (which is what one is supposed to do) demands constant work. It is one of the most difficult things to be a success at.

I know more than a few couples who have been together for a long time. In talking with them, they report that there were times they wanted to, or almost gave up, but they worked on their relationship instead of giving up and starting over. Most the times we bring the same baggage with us and end up in the same place when hitting the same road blocks.

I would not have written what I did had he not written what he did.

 

"I must say littlebit of myself,Im 40 years old man and have seen everything in my life.

very bad things and good times. I have 2 children boy 5 years and girl 13 years. Im in marriage now but I dont know what to do because im in loved in turkish lady!"

26.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 06:17 pm

As well as mid life crises suffered by many men and women, there is also the "7 year itch" which can affect either spouse.  Seems JKK has a 15 year itch.

27.       karekin04
565 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 06:38 pm

 

Quoting JKK

I Know. I have tried so many years! And now I found woman of my LIFE!

 

How do you know??? You haven´t cheated yet right? So you say? How do you know you are in love with her, how much time have you spent? Even married people are attracted to others, its not acting on it that makes you loyal, do you think your wife has never been attracted to another man, or another man to her???

 

Your talking divorce because of another woman. Not the other way around. Everyone gets sick of one another at times, and its completely normal to picture yourself in another life, but to assume this is the "woman of your LIFE". Thats sort of jumping the gun.

 

Get a divorce first, then decide that. It´s selfish to decide that while still in a marriage. I hope your wife finds the "man of her LIFE" very soon!

28.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 07:22 pm

Why is everyone giving this guy a hard time? 

 

I think JKK is very brave to write this story on here and I for one hope he finds the answers.

29.       karekin04
565 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 07:38 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Why is everyone giving this guy a hard time?

 

I think JKK is very brave to write this story on here and I for one hope he finds the answers.

 

A hard time? How so? He´s asking for advice, mine is divorce first then be with the woman? How is that giving someone a hard time? If yours is different then that post it. I don´t see how that is being mean at all. If you would rather hear your husband is in love with someone else so he wants to leave you rather then he wants to move on because things aren´t working out you are entitled to to feel that way.

 

I don´t see how urging someone not to cheat is giving someone a hard time?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

30.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 08:49 pm

Ironically, of all resources why have you chosen TLC for feedback and advise?

 

 

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