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Islam in Turkey is make-believe
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40.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:10 am

I would like to propose a toast to "freedom of speech committee". Now we are all free to question validity of this remark.

 

P.S. I have already promised to find the book where the quotation was made from but it will take time.

41.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:11 am

 

Quoting mltm

Quoting vineyards

I wish all the religions went down the sink

Allegedly quoted from K. Atatürk

 

 I had deleted this claim without source but it was undeleted by the freedom of speech committee.

 

Such a claim without source is not accepted. Show the source, show a reliable source, show us who claimed this.

 

haha

 

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk

I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap. My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go. Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow-men.

  • Quoted in Atatürk: The Biography of the founder of Modern Turkey, by Andrew Mango; "In a book published in 1928, Grace Ellison quotes [Atatürk], presumably in 1926-27", Grace Ellison Turkey Today (London: Hutchinson, 1928)
page no 463 lol

 

42.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:15 am

 

Quoting vineyards

I would like to propose a toast to "freedom of speech committee". Now we are all free to question validity of this remark.

 

P.S. I have already promised to find the book where the quotation was made from but it will take time.

 

I quite like question the validity of the decisions she makes..

Cheers from me to the toast..

43.       geniuda
1070 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:32 am

 

Quoting mltm

Quoting vineyards

I wish all the religions went down the sink

Allegedly quoted from K. Atatürk

 

 I had deleted this claim without source but it was undeleted by the freedom of speech committee.

 

Such a claim without source is not accepted. Show the source, show a reliable source, show us who claimed this.

 

I was trying to abstain from commenting about all these censorship related issues...but come on!! now what is next to be banned in this site?... phewww people is just taking all this too seriously!

 

Admin will soon add rule # 15{#lang_emotions_scared}

44.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:34 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

haha

 

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk

I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap. My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go. Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow-men.

  • Quoted in Atatürk: The Biography of the founder of Modern Turkey, by Andrew Mango; "In a book published in 1928, Grace Ellison quotes [Atatürk], presumably in 1926-27", Grace Ellison Turkey Today (London: Hutchinson, 1928)
page no 463 lol

 Then read these quotes as well with all the sources handsom.

http://www.atamizindeyiz.com/01/ata10.htm

Accoırding to here Atatürk has a religion and he belives in Islam. If you can translate them in egnlish for others, it would be good.

 

And is it ok to quote whatever as long as we give its source?It can be any bulls***. If it is ok, in the coming days I´ll quote a lof of things just for the sake of freedom of speech.

45.       catwoman
8933 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:38 am

Quote: mltm

And is it ok to quote whatever as long as we give its source?It can be any bulls***. If it is ok, in the coming days I´ll quote a lof of things just for the sake of freedom of speech.

 

As long as you are not quoting any PKK sources...

46.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:42 am

 

Quoting vineyards

I would like to propose a toast to "freedom of speech committee". Now we are all free to question validity of this remark.

 

P.S. I have already promised to find the book where the quotation was made from but it will take time.

 

You cannot just put forward such a claim and tell that I´ll try to find the source to this claim. Then find the source first.

47.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:44 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

As long as you are not quoting any PKK sources...

 

 

OK, then I´ll try to find the ones which handsom will love the most.

48.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:49 am

 

Quoting mltm

You cannot just put forward such a claim and tell that I´ll try to find the source to this claim. Then find the source first.

 

look mltm.

I gave the source up there..OK?

what was wrong with my links..eh?

lol

 

And pls..dealing with me is becoming an obsession for you..It wont do any good for your health..lol

Quote:

OK, then I´ll try to find the ones which handsom will love the most.

49.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 01:56 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

look mltm.

I gave the source up there..OK?

what was wrong with my links..eh?

lol

 

 The wrong thing is you handsom you know lol

I like playing games as much as you do. I am as stubborn as you can ever imagine.

I´m interested in psychology and my ability of empathy is quite good. I know the things that you enjoy, I know your tactics. I am not going to give up and leave the site being defeated by your games under the cover of "freedom of speech". To your L O L s I have my L O L s, and in the future to your links I will have my links. I know my subjects.

 

 

50.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 24 Sep 2008 Wed 02:09 am

So mltm, let´s see.. you asked for sources, you were given sources...now you take exception to the sources?  Last time I checked you had not been made and administrator.  You don´t get to make up the rules as you go. 

You seem to have a personal issue here with several members of this site and frankly you are looking a bit fanatical lately.  You can´t seem to make up your mind as to what you want!

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