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The ongoing occupation attempt of St. Gabriel Monastery
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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 04:43 pm

From a letter on the internet:

 

Dear Mr/Mrs,

I hereby would like to draw your attention to the occupation of St. Gabriel Monastery, which is one of the most important monasteries in the Syriac history.

St. Gabriel Monastery, which is among the most ancient Christian monasteries, was founded in 397 A.D and is situated in TurAbdin region (South East of Turkey). This monastery is considered as a very important religious site by the Syriacs. St. Gabriel Monastery, as a tradition, has been helping the poor and the needy people throughout its history and in order to sustain this tradition it has owned a large estate of lands and woods in its vicinity.

St. Gabriel Monastery acquired congregation foundation status during the Ottoman era, thus became one of the oldest known foundations in Turkey.

More: http://www.nordirak-turabdin.info/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=398&Itemid=1

 

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What about freedom of religion? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 04:49 pm

In April I visited the Dar-al-safran monastery near Mardin.  It was wonderful to see a Syrian church functioning so well, and the monks there were very complimentary about the way they could worship and carry out their religious duties.  

 

Seems like it can be different in different local areas?

3.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 05:13 pm

 

What about freedom of religion? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

you should ask this to the Kurdish asiret mafia that occupied the mentioned place. why don`t you start with learning what asiret is. That would help you understanding the issue.

4.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 05:38 pm

This is very sad indeed.{#lang_emotions_sad}

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 08:44 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

What about freedom of religion? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

Well... it applies only when they want a giant mosque in Cologne.

6.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 08:45 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

you should ask this to the Kurdish asiret mafia that occupied the mentioned place. why don`t you start with learning what asiret is. That would help you understanding the issue.

 

And why don´t you start with Communication & Respect 101? {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} That might help you understand what your problem is.

7.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 10:11 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Well... it applies only when they want a giant mosque in Cologne.

 

 

there are more functioning churches in Turkey than the functioning mosques in Germany, catwoman, though it`s a difficult fact for you to handle.

 

and I still don`t get what the Kurds occupying the lands of a church has to do with religious freedom. It`s maybe because the Kurdish freedom and religious freedom do not mix up.

 

8.       Trudy
7887 posts
 25 Sep 2008 Thu 11:30 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

there are more functioning churches in Turkey than the functioning mosques in Germany, catwoman, though it`s a difficult fact for you to handle.

 

and I still don`t get what the Kurds occupying the lands of a church has to do with religious freedom. It`s maybe because the Kurdish freedom and religious freedom do not mix up.

 

One correction: there are more neglected and abandoned churches in Turkey than mosques in Germany.

 

One remark: why do you call them Kurds when something wrong is done and demand they are Turkish when everything is fine?

9.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 26 Sep 2008 Fri 12:03 am

 

Quoting Trudy

One correction: there are more neglected and abandoned churches in Turkey than mosques in Germany.

 

One remark: why do you call them Kurds when something wrong is done and demand they are Turkish when everything is fine?

 

That doesn`t change the fact that there are more functioning churches in Turkey than the functioning mosques in Germany although the Muslim population of Germany is way larger than the Christian population of Turkey. I don`t think the abandoned churches have a relevance to the issue since most of them are older than 1000 years and in no shape to function.

 

as for calling these people Kurds, isn`t it what they want? Don`t you constantly post crime news going on in your country caused by the Turks or the other minorities? Why doesn`t the Dutch press regard these people as Dutch, but "immigrants from the x country", when they make trouble although most of them are Dutch citizens?

 

 

10.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Sep 2008 Fri 12:06 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

That doesn`t change the fact that there are more functioning churches in Turkey than the functioning mosques in Germany although the Muslim population of Germany is way larger than the Christian population of Turkey. I don`t think the abandoned churches has a relevance to the issue since most of them are older than 1000 years and in no shape to function.

 

Pleae give some proof of this, in another article it said that it´s impossible to build a church in turkey.

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